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tlosm 
Quiz... what machine is this???
Posted on 3-Nov-2017 6:01:49
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it is a trivia letz play

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Re: Quiz... what machine is this???
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@tlosm

Power Mac G5?

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@tlosm

Unusable emulation of real hardware?

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Re: Quiz... what machine is this???
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@Raffaele
nope

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@Birbo

near

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@tlosm,

A1 X5040?

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Re: Quiz... what machine is this???
Posted on 3-Nov-2017 19:57:28
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@tlosm

Well, the specs listed make it at least look like a 11,2 quad core 2.5 GHz PowerMac G5.
But, you could be running this via something like QEMU.

The only common desktop system using a 970MP processor is the 11,2, BUT that doesn't rule out emulation.

SO, since we know what an 970MP is, why don't you just fess up and TELL US?

And...if it is emulation, why not run an eight cored (four 970MP cpu) system?
After all, we now have X64 desktop cpus that run 8-16 threads, so if we're going to run multiple PPC threads, why not run as many threads as the X64 cpu can run?

Last edited by Beans on 03-Nov-2017 at 08:11 PM.
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Re: Quiz... what machine is this???
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@Birbo

you change your reply :)

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@Beans

i understand you dont like to play

it is my g5 ;-on it is installed and running my x5000 ssd with mate 16.04 that run x86 software .. now im building something on my fake i386 . im really near to have something like exagear for arm on ppc.

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no... dont turn on it from many many time...

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Re: Quiz... what machine is this???
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@tlosm

Very cool. And its not that I don't like to play, its just that the underlying hardware can really only be one machine, since its a four core 970MP system.

I think you may have a VERY good idea here, if you can free us from the need to spend a lot of money on expensive proprietary hardware that doesn't outperform a commonly available quad G5.

And X86 emulation is nice (X64 emulation would be nicer, but hey one step at a time). The G5 should be powerful enough to do a fairly good job of emulating the i386 ISA.

But aren't you limited to VESA video modes with something like this?

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Re: Quiz... what machine is this???
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@Bean

it have to run gallium with host gpu accels.
like exagear do on arm. im studing how exagear work for gave really good emulation on the small arm7 cpu and i try to replicate this on ppc.
... im locked in the other projects because need a patch that will be mainstream on qemu 2.11 just doing this because i have free time :P

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@tlosm

Little endian????
So is that possible to run Linux in Little Endian mode on a G5????
Wow, that's great! I suppose there will be much less pain in recompiling software!

Do you think would it be possible to run Little Endian Linux on the X1000, the X5000 or the A1222?

IBM page on Little Endian Linux

Last edited by virgolamobile on 04-Nov-2017 at 09:05 AM.
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My shot show G5 running little endian linux. But it running not as native like power8/9 do but it is jit by the brt. My intention is not have Linux i386 running (because run already) but wine full run with gl accelerations. Right now i just have success to open gl windows but without content running because i have to understand how the exagear devs Made it work on raspian... I have some feelings about but need to better investigate
Note i686 cpu set are redirected/emulated and not native ... Have it native is impossible because ppc not i386

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Re: Quiz... what machine is this???
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@Beans

Quote:
And X86 emulation is nice (X64 emulation would be nicer, but hey one step at a time).


And while we are at it. Emulation of X68 and X46 would be good too.

Quote:
The G5 should be powerful enough to do a fairly good job of emulating the i386 ISA.


I want to do better than emulating the speed of an i386 ISA bus.

Quote:
But aren't you limited to VESA video modes with something like this?


You would be if you were stuck at only emulating an i386 ISA!

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tlosm 
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step up!


https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/23155107_10210379229858681_83890903597465483_o.jpg?oh=4b66f965efbbec40fed004a5d1d5dfee&oe=5AADDB67

step up more!

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/23157101_10210379488745153_8654345818539382355_o.jpg?oh=b4ea95746da07d9e9e73ab8a6a03444a&oe=5A6EB60D

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Posted on 5-Nov-2017 14:40:13
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@tlosm

Nice, do you have a source for that?
And what video card are you using?

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Re: Quiz... what machine is this???
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@tlosm

There are a few other things I don't get.
You are using a 32 bit kernel, but the processors are listed as 970MPs, while the frequency at the top of the screen is listed as 1.25 GHz.

All that combines to confuse me.

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Re: Quiz... what machine is this???
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@Beans

I have a radeonhd 6570 on G5

1.25ghz is the 970mp when run in powersafe mode
im using 64bit kernel


new fresh shot

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/23157234_10210381366952107_7242970067813708887_o.jpg?oh=3124a3eae0ba3efbc677012193d37bfb&oe=5A67E0C7

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@tlosm

And you managed to get Wine running on a recent Linux PPC release.
Pretty impressive.

I need to rebuild the coolers on my G5 quad, but I'd love to duplicate this one day.

Come to think of it, at the rate you are improving this, it should be better by the time I get around to rebuilding the quad.

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