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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 10:34:49
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how does the 7000 fare ? |
As it dose not support hardware AF or AA the first option is as good as it is will get.
It’s is still a big jump forward from a Blizzard Vision or in fact most other Amiga graphics cards, but if never going to compete with a £300 ATI9800 Pro or other such second or third generation GPUs._________________ Sam440ep 667mhz, 512MB, 120GB 2.5" HD, OS4.1FE WinUae 3.0.0, OS 3.9, BB3, Catweasel MkIV Amiga 1200, Blizzard 040/40 (BlizzardPPC 060/200 with SCSI removed at present), mediatorSX pci, Voodoo3, PCI network card os 3.9BB2 4MB Minimig with ARM addon boar |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 11:00:06
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im glad i have the 9800 in my A1 |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 11:42:10
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The Radeon 7000 (a.k.a Rv100) is identical to the R100 and the Rv200 with two exceptions:
- It does not have a T&L unit - It does only have a 64 bit memory bus.
The former is not an issue right now because T&L is not used yet (will be in a few, though, meaning the Rv100 is at a disadvantage).
The latter is an issue right now and in the future, because it essentially makes things slower (due to the limited bandwidth) - up to 50% for fill-rate critical stuff. Usually this can be somewhat compensated by stepping down in resolution.
Otherwise, the Rv100 has the same features, including the anisotropic filtering and three texture units. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 11:42:21
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| @poweramiga2002 Quote:
poweramiga2002 wrote: @Dwyloc im glad i have the 9800 in my A1 |
Yes the 9800 is a very nice card I have a 9700Pro in my PC and I purchased it when it fist came out more than 2 years ago and I am very happy with it.
Being able to use AA and AF without any slowdown is very nice but I expect that it will be a while before hardware AA and AF is supported on the Amiga.
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 11:44:30
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Drivers for the R3x0 based cards are still quite some time away (that is 9600 and 9800).
Next thing on my to-do list is the R200 driver, i.e. for cards from 8500 to 9500. That driver is already started, although it will certainly not make it into the update 3. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 11:49:01
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just as well i have a 7000 9000 and the 9800 here for my A1 goto cover all bases :)
will the r300 drivers make it into the full release of os4? Last edited by poweramiga2002 on 20-May-2005 at 11:50 AM.
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 11:50:49
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9500 is R300, good news though. |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 11:54:07
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Isn’t the 9500 a cut down version of the 9700 Pro which is R3x0 based? or has ATI been recycling there model names/numbers again like they did with the 9700 model number for laptops their laptop cards which is not the same as the desktop 9700?
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 12:03:24
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will the r300 drivers make it into the full release of os4? |
No idea, really. It depends on time and other factors._________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 12:05:25
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Yes, you're right. As usual, I was mistaking the 9500 to be an M9(+), but the M9 is RV250/RV280, and that is 9000/9200.
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 12:39:24
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Thanks for these informations. Anyway i suppose that R100 dirvers will work also on R200 and R300 gpus but withour using the new features. So newer card will be more speedy anyway (higher clock, more ram...) even if the full support will come lter. Am i right? _________________ ikir |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 12:53:30
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There is an Alais Variable in the Mediator Warp3D drivers. Does this do anything on Voodoo4/5 ? |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 13:25:40
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 13:37:37
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Ta, but I'm not really at a disadvantage, seeing as there is (currently) nothing running on AOS4 that could make use of those features, and my monitor will only do 1024x768 !! _________________ XH558 - the worlds last flying Vulcan. ok, its actually XL426 in the picture but you know what I mean. |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 15:54:41
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@Dwyloc There is an Alais Variable in the Mediator Warp3D drivers. Does this do anything on Voodoo4/5 ? |
Sorry as I don’t own a Mediator or a Voodoo4/5 card I can’t help you._________________ Sam440ep 667mhz, 512MB, 120GB 2.5" HD, OS4.1FE WinUae 3.0.0, OS 3.9, BB3, Catweasel MkIV Amiga 1200, Blizzard 040/40 (BlizzardPPC 060/200 with SCSI removed at present), mediatorSX pci, Voodoo3, PCI network card os 3.9BB2 4MB Minimig with ARM addon boar |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 18:02:57
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Just wondered now we are on the subject of Heretic 2 is there any plans to port Shogo to OS4? Cheers _________________ A1XE G4 800mhz,512mb,Radeon9200,SonyDRU-510A and 800a,ESI Juli@, Sil680, WiFi. |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 18:28:03
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Anyway i suppose that R100 dirvers will work also on R200 and R300 gpus but withour using the new features. |
No. The GPU's aren't compatible. Meaning you cannot use the R100 driver on an R200.
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 18:29:10
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They have said that they will port all their games so I guess it's included |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 18:30:11
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Just wondered now we are on the subject of Heretic 2 is there any plans to port Shogo to OS4? |
Yes. Definitely._________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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Re: When will Heretic II be available for OS4? Posted on 20-May-2005 19:45:51
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Great, both games I started to play on my 603e but have had to stop myself, just because I want the pleasure of completing them on my A1. Thanks _________________ A1XE G4 800mhz,512mb,Radeon9200,SonyDRU-510A and 800a,ESI Juli@, Sil680, WiFi. |
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