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poweramiga2002 
radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 18:07:49
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Gday ppls my radeon 9800 dosent work with update 3 just hangs with grey screen
when i put the voodoo 3/3000 in it booted fine
was unable to do anything with 9800 in grey screen mouse wont move no icons at all
have copied my backup over dh0 and back with 9800 now with update 2

any ideas ?

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Re: radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 18:26:56
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@poweramiga2002

Your not alone! Exactly the same problem here. Just left with a grey Workbench headed screen? No mouse, no icons.

Only I don't have a voodoo to replace the radeon.

I made a back-up copy of my sys: directoty before installing and I have follwed the additional instructions in the Update installation to follow inthe event not booting after installation. Any ideas or suggestions anyone?

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Re: radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 18:36:03
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@TrevorDick
Yes, reinstall the orginal release from CD.

And then either stick second release back on it, and wait until they fix the 3rd release

-or-

reinsall the 3rd release, but do NOT change the startup-sequence or kicklayout.

if you do that it will go all wrong again, but at least you can change the settings to 256 colour desktop, and then get P96 working how it should.

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Re: radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 18:49:25
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@poweramiga2002

AFAIK this is what happens if you didn't install the latest uboot firmware from March 5th.

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Re: radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 18:54:46
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@AmigAlex

Is that 1.1.1 ??

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Re: radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 18:56:51
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@AmigAlex

NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooo

No way mate, i'm here with the latest firmware 1.1.1 (5th March 2005) and have
the exact same problem (Radeon 9800). After booting in i get some visible 5 cm
from the top displayed along with a trashed mousepointer and nothing else, even
trigering the Early-Startup crahses with a trashed mouse and a grey background

Thanks i'm not alone.

Any news on this from Hyperion already, a workaround?

Pretty please?

EDIT: Typos, and info added
EDIT2: Nooooooooooo, added

Last edited by Raziel on 14-Jun-2005 at 06:58 PM.
Last edited by Raziel on 14-Jun-2005 at 06:58 PM.

 
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Re: radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 18:59:23
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@Stephen_Robinson &
@thread

I would -strongly- suggest you refer to the firmware by date:
October or March to avoid confusion.

I have been told that both contain a version # of 1.1.1.
Maybe someone would be kind enough to confirm or correct me.

Best Wishes,
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Posted on 14-Jun-2005 19:00:56
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@number6

Confirmed, the last two firmware updates showed 1.1.1.

 
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Stephen_Robinson 
Re: radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 19:05:48
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@number6

Ahh.. I bought my Miggy in may, so it's possible that I've got an old Firmware, which COULD explain why the install went pete Tong.

Bit daft giving different firmware updates the same code init?


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Re: radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 19:23:10
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@poweramiga2002

Same here with my radeon 9200. Being one of those lazy people who doesn't make backups, I was stuffed. I have Voodoo 3 about 20 miles from here but decided to reisntall. Major pain in the a**e because i had rip apart the tower and plug the devices from the Sil back to the via.

Anyway I hope this gets sorted out soon.

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EntilZha 
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Posted on 14-Jun-2005 19:29:05
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@Stephen_Robinson

Quote:
Is that 1.1.1 ??


All of them are 1.1.1. This is the current U-Boot number. Amiga builds are discernable by the release date.

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Re: radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 19:32:49
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@Raziel

loan a gfx card for now... make it a voodoo or an radeon 7000 or whatever.

i can send down one to you if that is of interest.

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Posted on 14-Jun-2005 19:33:03
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@Stephen_Robinson

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Bit daft giving different firmware updates the same code init?


U-Boot is a general purpose firmware. The current build the AmigaOne version is based upon is U-Boot version 1.1.1.

However, the internal code for the AmigaOne versions changed. To avoid confiusion with the U-BOOT version number, we didn't introduce a new version, but refer to U-Boot updates by date.

You will not see something like "You need U-Boot 1.1.1", but rather "You need the march version of U-Boot".

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@Raziel

btw...what happens when u clear the uboot settings? , have u tried that? (going back to default)

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Re: radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 19:35:25
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Will have to reinstall the update (Y'know, only Amiga here and only AOne can go
Internet)

 
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EntilZha 
Re: radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 19:37:06
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@Raziel

Please make sure that your kicklayout lists "PCIGraphics.card", not "AmigaOne.card". This has been changed from previous versions since the same driver is used on classics for PCI graphics cards as well... The new driver needs PCIGraphics.card, it won't work anymore with AmigaOne.card.

Secondly, make sure that the dev:monitors directory doesn't contain an old monitor driver. If you renamed the original one, chances are that an old driver is still present.

I'll pass this on to the development and beta team, maybe somebody know another possible cause... Hang on...

Edit: One more thing: The new Radeon drivers use interrupts for synchronizing with the screen. Please check your interrupt routing in U-Boot (PCI/AGP setting): A good combination is 9, 10, 11, 7 for A, B, C, and D, respectively

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Posted on 14-Jun-2005 19:42:45
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@AmigAlex

OK dumb question. I just received my new MicroA1 with all software pre-installed within past 3 weeks and I and, perhaps foolishly, assumed it had all the current release of firmware. It certainly had release 2 installed and I did the exec.library check just to make sure.

Even dumber I backed up my sys: disk to a an amiga CDRW and it isn't recognised on a reboot of the system.

I can reboot from the original release one pre-release 1 installation CDrom.
Thought I would try to copy old picaaso96settings filw which I had copied to a usb flash drive (just in case) before installing R3. Now flash dive not recognised dspite starting usb manually.

Questions:

How can I tell what version of firmware is installed?
Is there an easy way back to my previous set-up without reinstalling release one then release 2, then my previous set-up from the CDRW?

Very frustrating!

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Stephen_Robinson 
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Posted on 14-Jun-2005 19:44:24
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@EntilZha

Oopsie, my bad (as they say)

How do I know which firmware version update I've got?

I've downloaded the file, but I don;t really want to install it, well just in case, unless I really have too...

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Posted on 14-Jun-2005 19:44:39
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@EntilZha

Thanks a lot Thomas

To get you some more details:

1. After installing (which went smooth and without problems) the system crashed.
Dunno why, the installer window wasn't closed then!) Anyway, i couldn't delete
"AmigaOne.card" out of Kickstart, so i knew i had to the next time.

2. After fiddling with the first and second OS4 CD's i was able to get into WB
again, but ONLY if i start from the SECOND CD and ONLY with "AmigaOS4_Debug" mode

Huh???

After returning to the WB i deleted "AmigaOne.card" but still no go.

btw: I used the standard intall method, Overwriting Startup-Sequence and
Kicklayout, that it

 
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Re: radeon 9800 not working with update 3
Posted on 14-Jun-2005 19:45:56
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@poweramiga2002

Please retry after adding "INTERRUPT=NO" to the tooltypes in your Radeon monitor driver.

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