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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 23-Oct-2006 17:03:07
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The thing will sales of computers is that...
Joe public has been suckered two or three times by now. so... "We need a new computer.... The last three were POS lets try one of these Mac things"
Cpu choice had zip to do with it.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 10-Jan-2007 17:36:18
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hey, I made the last comment on the Mega Thread, Kewl.
Resurrection Shuffle time !!
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 29-Mar-2007 14:14:03
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interesting definition of "debunking"
According to that press release their growth rate (of Macs) is 30%. Before the switch was first announced their growth rate was 40%...
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Note "Ships Record 1.61 Million Macs".
Also refer to http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/npd_mac_sales_grew_108_in_january/Last edited by Hammer on 29-Mar-2007 at 02:20 PM.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 29-Mar-2007 18:52:19
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I think we should rename this thread to Lazarus !!
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 18-Aug-2014 20:02:33
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This is very much what we set out to do with the set top boxes we did at Metabox. |
Apologies for posting this initially in a thread off the front page. My mistake. Copy of post follows:
I previously posted a link I discovered a week or two ago:
http://moonmedia.vn/index.php/en/products/met-box
Note the spelling "Met@box", despite the page saying "met-box"
Perhaps this will be a bit more clear then:
http://188.122.70.211/
More to come in due course.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 19-Aug-2014 3:20:09
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| Dave's comments are just as relevant today as they were 8 years ago. That's saying a lot.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 19-Aug-2014 4:23:12
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agami wrote: Dave's comments are just as relevant today as they were 8 years ago. That's saying a lot.
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well supposedly soon OS4.1 will be emulated via UAE so according to Dave there should be 100,000 copies of OS4.1 classic being sold. On the other hand AROS on bog standard Wintel machine have been around for quite a while but why not the millions of people using AROS as it's the best price of free ??
yes yes I know, so we might as well regurgitate the same points over and over again this decade Last edited by klx300r on 19-Aug-2014 at 04:24 AM.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 19-Aug-2014 6:23:24
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n the other hand AROS on bog standard Wintel machine have been around for quite a while but why not the millions of people using AROS as it's the best price of free ??
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Because computing has always been about SOFTWARE, the OS that you run it on is important but not vital. You can live with it if the software is good. Also it's a fact that people want software that's not abandoned, software that has a next version in the pipeline meanwhile your using your old version. Bring that kind of software to AROS and it will be my main OS.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 19-Aug-2014 10:54:37
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why not millions of people are using AmigaOS if the offer is that convincing?
or to use a slightly changed phrase "it is all software stupid". As Manu said people are nowadays not using computers because of brands or hardware but because they want to do certain tasks with it. Offer them a solution that is doing that (perhaps even better/more easily than competition) than you have a chance to sell. The only exception are parts of the apple users that buy it because it is from apple. Last edited by OlafS25 on 19-Aug-2014 at 10:55 AM.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 20-Aug-2014 20:14:10
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(I'm sure this is all well known to you, but it's news to me)
Seems to be a CYMTV BV product, possibly based on Pluggy (as per a photo on moon media's facebook page). CYMTV BV is owned by Van Herk Hoek Holdings company, which is owned by... Ron Van Herk (Computer City) and possibly Cindy Hoek (also Computer City?).
It's main office is in Rotterdam, which is also where a reverse IP lookup states the countdown is hosted (for what that is worth).
One to watch, we'll know in 72-and-a-bit days. Let's hope they don't do an ARIX.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 20-Aug-2014 20:43:31
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I resemble that remark ;D
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 20-Aug-2014 21:13:37
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 22-Aug-2014 9:56:06
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... well supposedly soon OS4.1 will be emulated via UAE so according to Dave there should be 100,000 copies of OS4.1 classic being sold. On the other hand AROS on bog standard Wintel machine have been around for quite a while but why not the millions of people using AROS as it's the best price of free ?? ...
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Hmmm - perhaps because of all the no-longer available or hopelessly outdated productivity software, we once had (and of which I still have a lot in the drawers of my desk)? The software that is commercially available for the Amiga today simply isn't professional or up-to-date enough compared to what is available on other platforms._________________ Ciao
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 22-Aug-2014 13:44:18
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yes of course software is important but considering more than 85% of my friends and family only use their computers for email, youtube, very light word processing and the occasional spreadsheet and game I'm sure our current AmigaOS flavours would make them quite happy ESPECIALLY as they don't have all the spam and viruses etc.
Now the main problem FOR ME when trying to get one of these people I speak of to try new Amiga offerings is "sounds interesting I might try it one day when I have time but for now my regular PC etc does what I need it to do". On the other hand my techie friends all have some form of Amiga OS running regularly with either a 64 or Atari (cough) in their computer room. Seems only the techie type people care about what hardware/OS they use and the average person doesn't give a rats arse _________________ ____________________________ c64-2sids, A1000, A1200T-060@50(finally working!),A4000-CSMKIII ! My Master Miggies- Amiga 1000 & AmigaOne X1000 ! mancave-ramblings X1000 I BELIEVE |
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 22-Aug-2014 13:51:25
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yes of course software is important but considering more than 85% of my friends and family only use their computers for email, youtube, very light word processing and the occasional spreadsheet and game I'm sure our current AmigaOS flavours would make them quite happy ESPECIALLY as they don't have all the spam and viruses etc. |
You would still have spam... Unless they somehow figure out what OS you are using and go... Don't bother this guy is using an Amigaoid OS he's clearly to simple to use a normal OS._________________ Support AROS sponsor a developer.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 22-Aug-2014 13:52:16
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It was well deserved :)
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 22-Aug-2014 14:07:48
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I think it is theoretical possible, of course you would need something that is comparable by price and hardware to competition, you would need a basic set of applications (modern browser, Email, some sort of office...) and that connected in a sophisticated configured desktop so that everything nicely integrates with others (f.e. using Arexx). That could be a nice tablet. |
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 22-Aug-2014 15:51:36
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 22-Aug-2014 17:12:12
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... in Southeast Asia.
btw - I thought it looked like a watch on Moon Media's facebook page, but now confirmed... met@watch
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors Posted on 22-Aug-2014 17:18:02
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If all that you deduced is true, then there would also be that connection to the AHT stb in a sense too, no?
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