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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
Posted on 23-Oct-2006 17:03:07
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The thing will sales of computers is that...

Joe public has been suckered two or three times by now. so... "We need a new computer.... The last three were POS lets try one of these Mac things"

Cpu choice had zip to do with it.

Win probs EVERYTHING to do with it.

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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
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hey, I made the last comment on the Mega Thread, Kewl.




Resurrection Shuffle time !!

The_Editor Resurrecting the Daddy (thread) of em all

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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
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That opinion has been debunked. Refer to Apple's fiscal Q4-2006 earnings http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/oct/18results.html

Apple's PC unit sales growth is twice the industry?s rate


interesting definition of "debunking"

According to that press release their growth rate (of Macs) is 30%.
Before the switch was first announced their growth rate was 40%...

Note "Ships Record 1.61 Million Macs".

Also refer to
http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/npd_mac_sales_grew_108_in_january/

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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
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I think we should rename this thread to Lazarus !!

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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
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This is very much what we set out to do with the set top boxes we did at Metabox.


Apologies for posting this initially in a thread off the front page. My mistake. Copy of post follows:

I previously posted a link I discovered a week or two ago:

http://moonmedia.vn/index.php/en/products/met-box

Note the spelling "Met@box", despite the page saying "met-box"

Perhaps this will be a bit more clear then:

http://188.122.70.211/

More to come in due course.

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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
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Dave's comments are just as relevant today as they were 8 years ago. That's saying a lot.

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Dave's comments are just as relevant today as they were 8 years ago. That's saying a lot.


well supposedly soon OS4.1 will be emulated via UAE so according to Dave there should be 100,000 copies of OS4.1 classic being sold. On the other hand AROS on bog standard Wintel machine have been around for quite a while but why not the millions of people using AROS as it's the best price of free ??

yes yes I know, so we might as well regurgitate the same points over and over again this decade

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n the other hand AROS on bog standard Wintel machine have been around for quite a while but why not the millions of people using AROS as it's the best price of free ??


Because computing has always been about SOFTWARE, the OS that you run it on is important but not vital. You can live with it if the software is good. Also it's a fact that people want software that's not abandoned, software that has a next version in the pipeline meanwhile your using your old version. Bring that kind of software to AROS and it will be my main OS.

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why not millions of people are using AmigaOS if the offer is that convincing?

or to use a slightly changed phrase "it is all software stupid". As Manu said people are nowadays not using computers because of brands or hardware but because they want to do certain tasks with it. Offer them a solution that is doing that (perhaps even better/more easily than competition) than you have a chance to sell. The only exception are parts of the apple users that buy it because it is from apple.

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@number6

(I'm sure this is all well known to you, but it's news to me)

Seems to be a CYMTV BV product, possibly based on Pluggy (as per a photo on moon media's facebook page).
CYMTV BV is owned by Van Herk Hoek Holdings company, which is owned by... Ron Van Herk (Computer City) and possibly Cindy Hoek (also Computer City?).

It's main office is in Rotterdam, which is also where a reverse IP lookup states the countdown is hosted (for what that is worth).

One to watch, we'll know in 72-and-a-bit days. Let's hope they don't do an ARIX.

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I resemble that remark ;D

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Sorry, couldn't resist.

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well supposedly soon OS4.1 will be emulated via UAE so according to Dave there should be 100,000 copies of OS4.1 classic being sold. On the other hand AROS on bog standard Wintel machine have been around for quite a while but why not the millions of people using AROS as it's the best price of free ??
...



Hmmm - perhaps because of all the no-longer available or hopelessly outdated productivity software, we once had (and of which I still have a lot in the drawers of my desk)?

The software that is commercially available for the Amiga today simply isn't professional or up-to-date enough compared to what is available on other platforms.

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@ Dandy, Mnau & Olaf25

yes of course software is important but considering more than 85% of my friends and family only use their computers for email, youtube, very light word processing and the occasional spreadsheet and game I'm sure our current AmigaOS flavours would make them quite happy ESPECIALLY as they don't have all the spam and viruses etc.

Now the main problem FOR ME when trying to get one of these people I speak of to try new Amiga offerings is "sounds interesting I might try it one day when I have time but for now my regular PC etc does what I need it to do". On the other hand my techie friends all have some form of Amiga OS running regularly with either a 64 or Atari (cough) in their computer room. Seems only the techie type people care about what hardware/OS they use and the average person doesn't give a rats arse

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yes of course software is important but considering more than 85% of my friends and family only use their computers for email, youtube, very light word processing and the occasional spreadsheet and game I'm sure our current AmigaOS flavours would make them quite happy ESPECIALLY as they don't have all the spam and viruses etc.


You would still have spam... Unless they somehow figure out what OS you are using and go... Don't bother this guy is using an Amigaoid OS he's clearly to simple to use a normal OS.

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It was well deserved :)

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I think it is theoretical possible, of course you would need something that is comparable by price and hardware to competition, you would need a basic set of applications (modern browser, Email, some sort of office...) and that connected in a sophisticated configured desktop so that everything nicely integrates with others (f.e. using Arexx). That could be a nice tablet.

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@Boot_WB

Seems to be new:

Moon Media is the exclusive partner of CYMTV

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@Boot_WB

Seems to be new:

Moon Media is the exclusive partner of CYMTV

#6


... in Southeast Asia.

btw - I thought it looked like a watch on Moon Media's facebook page, but now confirmed... met@watch

I can see me buying one of those just for the obscure geek points.

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@Boot_WB

If all that you deduced is true, then there would also be that connection to the AHT stb in a sense too, no?

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