It may well be me, after being away from all things Amigan for about half a year, but this Upgrade 4 has really moved things beyond some qualitative threshold.

The OS, despite some initial minor problems, has become much more of a natural extension, much more inviting to use and just much more fun -- and I cannot put my finger on what it is that makes me feel this so strongly, perhaps it is just a lot of different changes coming together all at once, like water lowered just a degree suddenly becoming ice.

I don't know what it is, but it is working magic for me.

A few more apps; a heavy duty browser, a good WP, a few more things and I would give up Windoze for 90%-100% of the time.

I have one idea for Hyperion for the distant future. The format and install of a new version of the OS is a really good way of doing things, what is needed is some intelligent archiving of the old "replaced" OS. By intelligent I mean somehow deletlng all the compiled code from the disk that is being upgraded, and backing up onto another disk into an archive all the rest in some order so that it could be applied, taken out again and put back in bit by bit from the OS disk once it has been formatted and the new version of the OS installed.

I say distant future because it is a big ask. It seems to me that an OS upgrade respresent two things. One is naturally enough to get the OS changed, the other is to get rid of a lot of clutter that accumulates around the OS, hence when the new OS is used and this or that library is missing, then a redirection to the archive could be automatically managed.

Such an intelligent archive mechanism might be good to simply tune up the OS by temporarily removing everything that is not part of original installation (barring prefs of course), then the user could reinstall their third party stuff bit by bit and perhaps reorganise things.

On part of the magic of this Upgrade was because I reformatted, I was able to reorganise things so much better (adding third party directory assigns to Libs, C, S (not MUI - already messed that up by dropping stuff into the directory before I thought about it properly), separating out ther statups for apps (much easier to change things) and started organising my apps within a more rational hierachy of directories.

So basically I am finding with this upgrade I am starting to run the OS rather than have the OS run me (if that makes any sense) - whatever the reason it sure feels great.

Thanks to the whole development team.

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@GregS

It's getting harder and harder waiting until next 3Cag meeting to upgrade my Os to update IV


M U S T R E S I S T !!

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@The_Editor

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t's getting harder and harder waiting until next 3Cag meeting to upgrade my Os to update IV M U S T R E S I S T !!

Jeez, man - I don't envy you! I managed to wait an evening, yes one evening before the ISO got installed...

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@GregS

I agree with you wholeheartedly!

I've just been playing around in PPaint, converting 24-bit IFF images into 8-bit colour depth. The increase in speed is so dramatic that it's increasing my productivity no-end!

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@The_Editor

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The_Editor wrote: @GregS It's getting harder and harder waiting until next 3Cag meeting to upgrade my Os to update IV M U S T R E S I S T !!

Uhh, create a new partition, copy all your stuff over to it, then 'upgrade' that.
Point back to the original one for your CAG meeting.

Problem solved.

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wegster wrote: Uhh, create a new partition, copy all your stuff over to it, then 'upgrade' that. Point back to the original one for your CAG meeting. Problem solved.

That would also solve GregS's requirement for an intelligent 'install'
This is exactly what I have done, and i am copying things across as to my new boot partition as I need them.

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@wegster

Except....

the True size of the drive will not be registered until I do a fresh scan of the drive (or something like that according to Rigo) will remove all partitions !!


apparently if I write down the partition sizes and put them back EXACTLY the same then the info on them MIGHT remain untouched !!




Here's a screeny to show my point.

I do have just under 3 gigs spare if I want to make a Tiny partition.

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@Swoop
It is also what I did (am still doing, bit by bit).

It was because of doing this I thought well down the track it could with the right software become a feature - a reconditioning of the machine and a chance to reorganise things.

Maybe it is a silly idea on the basis of having to create such a installer, but I was thinking when hard to trace (by normal users) problems occur, a backup, re-format re-installation is not such a bad idea.

I am much much happier with how my system is taking shape, and an upgrade which makes changes in place is maybe not such a good idea as a first option.

So for hyperion in the future, I suggest the present, back-up, reformat and install is a good thing. You can't do that on windows in a sensible way (too many copy stops because things are being used), I had forgotten that I could back up the OS when it was live, I actually did it unthinkingly when I noticed it was working just fine (it is a lovely OS after all and too long on MS has rather rotted my mind).

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Yeah but we still miss stuff like overlay.. Huge feature that is VERY needed.

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I have been messing around with UD4 about 7 hours now and

OHhhh yeaaaaaaaaa. Uh-huh. This is so good it's just plain BAD.
Hey gates! I gotcher vista right HERE pal.

Ohhh MAMA, this is nice.

Now dats wot I call in-no-vation.

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Yeah but we still miss stuff like overlay.. Huge feature that is VERY needed.

For me, overlay is a worthless eyecandy feature. To each his own.

There are an infinite number of features out there. I'm very glad Rogue has focused on the features he has because eyecandy, although important, isn't the way to build a solid foundation. I think we now have a pretty solid foundation (sans the crappy old mem. system) from the reports coming in. Yeah, stuff is missing and some cards aren't supported but the stuff that is there is of high quality and as GregS has noticed, it makes a difference.

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