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Tomas 
Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 12:35:21
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I feel sorry for acube... Must suck to have used so much resources on developing a board and then end up having no software running on it, which in the end will mean much lower sales.
I doubt there is many people in the amiga community who will buy this hardware for just linux, which already runs much better on x86.

I dont understand why even hyperion bothered to come, considering they had NOTHING to announce from what i have heard so far. The very minimum they should have had was a real release date for the classic version.

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Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 12:49:44
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@Tomas
It would be even worse if Hyperion didn't even bother to attend - just look at the shocks of horror that Amiga Inc weren't attending. At least it shows they still have some interest/hope for OS4...

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Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 12:49:46
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Did Craig ( From Gp2X.co.uk) attend Pianetta then ?

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Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 12:54:15
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@The_Editor

No idea...but my GP2x is taking too much of my spare time!

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Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 13:49:52
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@ChrisH

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It would be even worse if Hyperion didn't even bother to attend


I loved seeing them showing (with no official press release [/sarcasm]) a cardboard box...

You can imagine Steve Jobs waving an iPhone box on stage saying "Look at this cool packaging... Product? When its done..."

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Tomas 
Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 13:59:56
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@Benji
Agree... It all seems like a damn tease to me.

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Raffaele 
Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 14:55:01
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@Tomas

Quote:

Tomas wrote:
I feel sorry for acube... Must suck to have used so much resources on developing a board and then end up having no software running on it, which in the end will mean much lower sales.


Don't worry. Sure they created this board for a vaste range of markets.

Simply the fact it has also connectors to make it became a POS (Point Of Sale) mainboard grants a vaste range of the market for the ACube motherboard...

They developed it keeping an eye to Amiga market...

But Amiga market it is not their main market of reference.

But sure they added to Samantha adding also things suitable for the Amiga market and not oly for embedded uses.

Think for example to audio substyem.

It has no importance and there is no necessity of it in embedded market, but it is directly tied with any Amiga bare necessities for audio, programming, sound...

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Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 15:27:18
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@TheDaddy

from the link given by TheDaddy, there are some pictures.

one of them show AOS4 and the other one is A1200 with mediator.

there is no picture who show a A1200+mediator running AOS4 together.

someone can confirm if AOS4 is running with classic A1200+elbox hardware ???

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ZeroG 
Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 16:19:20
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@Mrodfr

Post 64:
http://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=382&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&type=&mode=0&start=60

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guruman 
Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 17:42:55
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@Senex
Quote:
@gdg
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I was also pretty sure that the difference for the 533 MHz was
60 Euro. Well, effects of aging.

I suppose both of you are right and the 60 Euro simply refer to the
lowest spec, i.e. 533 + 256 MB.

And, as usual, you're right. 15 Euros is just the difference of price
of the CPUs, maybe I worded it wrongly and it was not so clear.

@Lecta
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Guruman showed MOS with the third beta of Sputnik and other
things (maybe he wil be more precise).

Well, I had betas of paint programs MOSPaint and Sketch, a couple of
games, ldview (a Lego viewer... just for real amateurs!). And the
usual software: web browsers comparison, Blender, Pixel, CanonToolBox,
PTPDigCam, newer Ambient with filetypes and MUI4, mPlayer, ANR,
ShowGirls, os4emu+DvPlayer (a slightly older demoversion), emulators
and games (Robin Hood, VGP2 or Quake III native, and the WarpUp/W3D
ones).

On a sidenote, the most enjoiable presentation was, AFAICT, the AROS
one by Paolo "paolone" Besser.
Also Amithlon and AmiKit were shown, and there were a couple of
additional AmigaOnes (swisso's, for instance).

If I find some inspiration, I'll write a short report in the next
days.

I uploaded some pics here:
http://www.amigapage.it/index.php?pl=image&modo_image=6&categoria=fiere&name=24

Kind regards,
Andrea

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AmigaBlitter 
Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 18:38:00
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@thread

Hello. This thread is called "Disappointed", just because nobody have write a good review?

I'm sorry due to the fact we haven't put online line all the greetings coming from "Amiga people". We had a few problems. I hope to put this messages online soon.

Bye


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gdg 
Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 18:39:27
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@Raffaele

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Not so bad for the very first batch of motherboards, all produced in Italy with italian/european manufacturing costs...

I cannot agree more. Bear in mind that this board has higher specs than commercial computer hardware (the boards are individually tested at -5 to +55 degrees Celsius). Also consider that the price will likely go down when some industrial customer orders a fair amount of boards (and no, we are not talking millions - some hundreds is enough).

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Rob 
Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 23-Sep-2007 23:18:38
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@gdg

Wasn't there some info from a while back that said the design was modular and different spec boards could be made on the same line. I wonder if this means that user boards could be ordered without, for example, the flash controller.

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Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 24-Sep-2007 0:59:14
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@DiscreetFX

What does AmigaInc have that you can't get / license from Acer?

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Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 24-Sep-2007 1:53:40
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@peroxidechicken

We will have to check into that one.

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CodeSmith 
Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 24-Sep-2007 2:23:16
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@DiscreetFX

I would laugh so hard if after all this lawsuit nonsense, you came out one day and said, "sorry gentlemen, but I have this piece of paper from the trademark owners that says y'all have done nothing with them, so it's my turn now."

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Gleng 
Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 24-Sep-2007 3:08:10
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@CodeSmith

If that happens, I will laugh solidly for at least a week.

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Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 24-Sep-2007 13:04:12
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Some pictures from AmiCon 2007 party in Hungary, by me, and some other pics and videos are by Cobra. Samantha working, OS4 beta running on BPPC and MorphOS beta running on Efika included.

(Edit: First link is dead now because of server fixing. Should be back soon.)
(Edit#2: It's back.)

Last edited by Chain-Q on 24-Sep-2007 at 02:52 PM.
Last edited by Chain-Q on 24-Sep-2007 at 01:08 PM.

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gdg 
Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 24-Sep-2007 17:38:49
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@Rob

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Wasn't there some info from a while back that said the design was modular and different spec boards could be made on the same line. I wonder if this means that user boards could be ordered without, for example, the flash controller.

This is true, but only industrial customers can pick their own configuration (and have a batch of boards manufactured on demand). Anyway people that are going to use the board for general-purpose computing will most likely want to have all of the features available (not that you can save much by removing them, except the Radeon, but then...)

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paolone 
Re: Disappointed: Pianeta Amiga 2007
Posted on 26-Sep-2007 17:07:55
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guruman wrote:
On a sidenote, the most enjoiable presentation was, AFAICT, the AROS
one by Paolo "paolone" Besser.


Thank you, Andrea. I've been proud and happy to be there, in order to show what AROS gained in the last months.

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