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Jose 
IBrowse status
Posted on 4-Oct-2007 20:10:42
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Hi. I know some of the devs hang on in here. Does anyone has any idea when it will be available again for purchase ?
Also 598 issues open!! That's a sign development is going on, probably on CSS support:)

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Re: IBrowse status
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@Jose

Wait Sputnik instead, IBrowse is surely a good product but he need a LOT of work before we can use it on the web for the "real things"

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Re: IBrowse status
Posted on 4-Oct-2007 20:58:26
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@Jose

I don't think that you're going to see much movement progress-wise on IBrowse if/until after the AOS4 legal issues are resolved between AInc. and Hyperion, which could easily take another 6 months or longer at this point, if not forever, at least IMHO.

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Re: IBrowse status
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@elatour

Why should the legal situation impact on the availability of a 68k app?

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Jose 
Re: IBrowse status
Posted on 4-Oct-2007 21:09:12
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"Wait Sputnik instead, IBrowse is surely a good product but he need a LOT of work before we can use it on the web for the "real things"

I think I'd prefer IBrowse. The only thing missing to make it usable for 90% of the sites is CSS IMHO. Sure, the flash plug in might be buggy but I'm sure it shouldn't be dificult making a new one based on existing Aminet flash players or Linux, given that the API is supposed to be Netscape compatible.

Also >500 issues open is a clear sign of development.

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Futaura 
Re: IBrowse status
Posted on 4-Oct-2007 21:09:53
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@Rob

Indeed. IBrowse development continues regardless, and admittedly we did have a rather long break after 2.4 was released. There will be no Christmas release again this year - too stressful, from last year's experience.

IBrowse will be available again for purchase at some point - we have some interest from various distributors, but Stefan has been busy, so we've yet to reach a conclusion in this matter. I'm afraid I can't give a timeframe on this.

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@Futaura

Great to know that! ;)

IBrowse is still my main browser and I'd prefer to keep it that way.
Good work!

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Mine as well, would hate to have to give it up.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers.

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Hans 
Re: IBrowse status
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@Futaura

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Futaura wrote:
@Rob
IBrowse will be available again for purchase at some point - we have some interest from various distributors, but Stefan has been busy, so we've yet to reach a conclusion in this matter. I'm afraid I can't give a timeframe on this.


Any chance you could comment on what's been done. I don't need a timeframe, but it would be nice to hear something along the lines of CSS DOM code ##%, etc.

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@Jose

598 Open issues is not a clear sign of development. It is a clear sign of required development, which by itself gives you no indication how long such development will take.

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@Futaura

Isn't the next version (3.0) going to be OS4 native?

Is there a public beta version available (like with YAM)?

Keep up the good work! IBrowse is my first choice for browsing too.

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Hi Futaura, thanks for your status update, but I have some doubts here and there, I don't to be rude, but how to release some little updates and/or working on it step by step instead working on it for years ... ??

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a shame that its not available atm to purchase.

Looking forward for registration

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@Futaura

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but Stefan has been busy

He has been busy for several years now :-/
Maybe he should take some decision like stopping development of 2.4 in favour of 3.0 or maybe to "hire" some people to help or ... any other solution to speed development.

I see other solutions progressing much faster than IBwrose.

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Futaura 
Re: IBrowse status
Posted on 7-Oct-2007 10:42:33
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Summing up regarding the various questions... Yes, open issues are not directly a sign of development, but busy beta testers . No doubt some of you will have noticed the resolved count increasing, which of course does indicate development is in progress (also not that many changes and fixes do not even have an associated bugtrack entry, so will never show up in any counts).

Yes, there will be an OS4 native version of IBrowse 3.0. David Burstroem already did a lot of work on porting IBrowse, and in recent months I have been working at moving this part of the project to completion. Contrary to comments I have read elsewhere, porting IBrowse to PPC is by no means a trivial task - not only was the IBrowse source code heavily reliant on SAS/C specific features, there are also chunks of 68k assembly code, some of which still need to be ported back to C, while some of it needed to be ported to PPC asm (low level stuff which simply isn't possible in C, and an integral part of IBrowse's threading implementation).

As for CSS/DOM, again David did already write the CSS parser a while ago for IBrowse 3.0, although in many ways the parser is the easy part - the layout engine will be where most work needs to be done.

More frequent updates are planned, but it's pointless until we have IBrowse 3.0 in a usable state, and by that I mean as good as 2.4, but with some CSS support and improved DOM support. We will release 3.0 as soon as we can, even though this will most likely mean CSS support is not complete (but usable/stable), and then we can release more frequent updates from that point on as CSS/DOM support is improved. That's the plan as I see it, at least.

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Posted on 7-Oct-2007 10:50:17
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@Futaura

tnx on this Info...For me Ib is the best Amiga browser..

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Posted on 7-Oct-2007 11:13:16
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@Futaura

Thank you for the IBrowse info update!
I like to see clear, concise, reliable information... you have provided that! Much appreciated.

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Antique 
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Posted on 7-Oct-2007 11:37:29
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@Futaura

Like good music for mye ears

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Quote:
For me Ib is the best Amiga browser..


for me, ibrowse is the best browser on any platform:))) keep up the good work, i'd really-really like to use only ib for surfing!
ib rulz!

Last edited by $adddam on 07-Oct-2007 at 01:00 PM.
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Hans 
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Posted on 7-Oct-2007 16:22:21
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@Futaura

Thanks.

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