Does anybody know where you can download RedHat 5.0 for PowerUP boards?

The links at the APUS site are - as far as I know - down. APUS

If it is not availible for download anymore I would be interresting in buying a copy

Thank you in advance.!

@JohnFante

What about Debian Sarge for APUS? It's old, but not as old as RedHat Linux 5.0!

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@Geri

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Geri wrote: @JohnFante What about Debian Sarge for APUS? It's old, but not as old as RedHat Linux 5.0!

I think he means Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.0. The RHEL version numbers are overlapping the old pre-Fedora Red Hat version numbers, and it's causing confusion. (at least it's confusing me...)

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@Geri

Sarge runs on PowerUp too???

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@Geri

Well the reason I am looking for RedHat 5.0 is because it is the one used in the instructions on the APUS site.

If anybody has experience with other distributions they would like to share I would be glad to hear them.

@bison

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bison wrote: @Geri I think he means Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.0. The RHEL version numbers are overlapping the old pre-Fedora Red Hat version numbers, and it's causing confusion. (at least it's confusing me...)

Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.0 is fairly new. I don't think it runs on Amiga PowerUP systems.

@mwoof

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mwoof wrote: @Geri Sarge runs on PowerUp too???

Yes, but with kernel v2.4.27.

@JohnFante

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JohnFante wrote: Well the reason I am looking for RedHat 5.0 is because it is the one used in the instructions on the APUS site. If anybody has experience with other distributions they would like to share I would be glad to hear them

There's a Debian installation guide available for every Debian release.

Last edited by Geri on 09-Jun-2008 at 06:02 PM.

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@Geri

Thank you!

I have started downloading the images from Debian 3.1. r8

I havn't looked at the installation information in detail link but I can not seem to find info on how to boot the install-CD on my A4000, CyberstormPPC?

I have a IDE CD and HD so a direct boot is not an option. Do you hava short how-to or any good tips?

@JohnFante

This seems to be the way to boot the Debian install on an Amiga PPC machine (I don't know anything about the correct video driver options, as I don't have a Amiga PowerUP machine):

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boothack --apus -k vmlinux-apus -r "CD0:install/apus/initrd.gz" root=/dev/ram nobats 60nsram video=pm2fb:mode:1280x1024-60

boothack is available here.
German install guide on the AmigaFuture homepage.
The Debian installation manual for APUS.
Kernel and ramdisk images to boot the Debian Sarge install CD.

I hope that helps a little bit.

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@Geri

Great! Thank you

I will brush up my german and give it a go.

If everything goes well i will post a English how to - at least for my system.

@JohnFante

I wrote a short howto on how to Install Debian (Woody) on AmigaClassic PPC. It's in Swedish but I guess that won't be an issue.

http://safir.amigaos.se/main.php?d=faqshowtos&id=9

/shoe

@shoe

Nice!

Unfortunately it looks like the link to Woody is down.

Maby you could make an update for Sarge

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@JohnFante

yeah, I noticed I'm trying to find a working link right now.

I also found the official Debian howto, its available at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/apus Another good guide is http://linux-apus.sourceforge.net/docs/installing.html

Edit - AmigaFormat also made a nice GUI for launching the Linux kernel using APUS. It is available here: ftp://ftp.unina.it/pub/linux/apus/contrib/APUS_AmigaFormat.lha

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Great! Thank you I will brush up my german and give it a go.

If there is enough interest, I could also do an English version of the tutorial...

@ville9

That would be great. My german is a bit rusty - to say the least.

@JohnFante

Ok, I'll post it in a few days. There's also some new information with regard to recompiling - not included in the AmigaFuture article yet...

@ville9

Any news?

@ville9

Well I tried to brush my german and give it a go.

I prepared my drives through OS 4.0 Classic with this guide LINK

I then followed the instuctions on the AmigaFutere site.

The installer boots fine and I chose language and keyboard. I also chose and initialize my swap and root partitions fine.

But I get an error when I tri to install my kernel and drivers (and this goes both if I chose the CD-rom or HTTP as install media ).

The error is:

"Attempting to unmount the partition mounted on the directory '/instmnt' failed. This could mean you have another process running in a directory under '/instmnt', or you have another filesystem mountet on a mount point under '/instmnt".

I use this code to launch the installer from os3.9:

bootstrap --apus -k vmlinuz-2.4.18-apus -r "CD1:install/apus/root.bin" root=/dev/ram nobats 70nsram video=pm2fb:mode:1280x1024-60

Anybody knows what I am doing wrong?

Last edited by JohnFante on 14-Jun-2008 at 04:10 PM.

@JohnFante

When choosing "Install Base system", it should automatically find your inserted Debian CD ROM and install from it without manual selection of the install media.
What CD are you using? I tried with "Debian 3.0 r6 ppc Bin-1_NONUS", which is the last Woody release...

I'll post the complete tutorial tomorrow.

@ville9

Great with the tutorial. Looking forward to it.

It starts automaticly looking for the install cd but the i get the error I posted before and the it gives you the possiblity to use HTTP.

I am using "Debian 3.0 r6 ppc Bin-1" there is no "_NONUS" at the end of mine.

Where did you get your ISO from?

I seem to have lost the link to the place I got mine from?

@JohnFante

Get the install images from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/images/3.0_r6/powerpc/
You only need debian-30r6-powerpc-binary-1_NONUS.iso

The install process requires a networking card (nearly everything besides Norway is supported), fast internet access and ideally a graphics card (PCI boards aren't supported unfortunately). The tuturial describes the install of Debian Sarge on an A4000T with CSPPC 233 MHz, CVisionPPC and Ariadne II - most of it also applies to BPPC and other graphics/networking cards though.

Preparing partitions

For a default setup, Linux requires three partitions at least:
- a small boot partition (DOSType DOS\3 0x444F5303) for file exchange and booting, 5 - 100 MB are sufficient
- a Linux partition (DOSType EXT2 0x45585432), this should be at least 2 GB if you want to try X with some applications
- a swap partition (DOSType SWAP 0x53574150), which you probably already have for OS 4

Downloading and extracting archives

Kernel 2.4.27 of Debian 3.1 (Sarge) freezes on intitializing the UWSCSI controller, and kernel 2.4.20 crashes when trying to play sounds - so we'll use kernel 2.4.18-2 from linux-apus.sourceforge.net for Debian 3.0 (Woody). As a first step, you only need vmlinuz-2.4.18-apus from kernel-image-apus_2.4.18-2.lha and boothack, ppcboot_pup (for PowerUp) and/or ppcboot_wup (for WarpOS) from bh010623.lha.

Booting the installer

After having inserted the first Debian CD, boot the installer with
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boothack --apus -k vmlinuz-2.4.18-apus -r "Debian 3.0 r6 ppc Bin-1_NONUS:install/apus/root.bin" root=/dev/ram nobats 60nsram video=pm2fb:mode:1280x1024-60

"60nsram" may only be used with fast enough memory and "pm2fb:mode:1280x1024-60" describes a 1280x1024 screenmode at 60 Hz on a CVisionPPC/BVisionPPC.
After the installer has booted, you first have to choose your language and keyboard type. Then continue with the following options (Remark: Please note that I used the German installer, so the translation of the menu items might not always be correct):
- "Initialize and Activate a Swap Partition": The prepared swap partition will be automatically selected.
- "Initialize a Linux Partition": The Linux partition will be automatically selected as well. You should format the partition as Ext3 and confirm the question "Do you want to mount /dev/sda? as root filesystem?". Write down the listed device ("/dev/sda4" for example), as it will be needed later!
- "Mount a Previously-Initialized Partition": Select the prepared boot partition and use "/boot" as directory.
By choosing this menu item again, you can also prepare other FFS partitions as "/dh0" or "/dh1" for example.
- "Configure the Hostname"
- "Configure the Network": If your Amiga is connected to a DHCP-capable router, then network is configured in a second - but it also doesn't take much longer otherwise.
- "Install the Base System" from the inserted CD-ROM.
- "Reboot the System": A reset will be made, so you boot into AmigaOS again.

Prepare the boot partition

Copy EXT2FileSystem from ext2fs_0.30.lha to L: and use giggledisk.lha to create a mountfile for the Ext3 Linux partition.
Add the line "Control = CASESENSITIVE" to the mountfile and mount the partition.
Now you can extract the archives kernel-headers-apus_2.4.18-2.tar.gz, kernel-image-apus_2.4.18-2.lha and kernel-patch-apus_2.4.18-2.tar.gz to the Ext3 partition. The four files that have been extracted into /boot (config-2.4.18-apus, patches-2.4.18-apus, System.map-2.4.18-apus and vmlinuz-2.4.18-apus) have to be moved to the FFS boot partition afterwards.
Now you can install a minimal system with PowerUp or WarpOS on this boot partition (EXT2FileSystem doesn't work from RDB unfortunately). For PowerUp, this can be done as follows:
- copy SetPatch, boothack and ppcboot_pup to /C
- copy 68060.library and ppc.library to /Libs
- create S/Startup-Sequence (with the correct device for your Linux partition after "root="!)
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C:SetPatch NONSD NOROMUPDATE QUIET C:boothack --apus -k vmlinuz-2.4.18-apus root=/dev/sda4 nobats 60nsram video=pm2fb:mode:1280x1024-60 video=amifb:off

The option "video=amifb:off" disables native video output and switches to DblScan, so you can have Paula sound with sampling rates up to 56 kHz.

Booting Linux

If the boot partition has been set up correctly, you can boot into Linux and continue the install of Woody - you don't have to choose the German localizations of course :
- "Configuring Console-data" -> "Select keymap from full list" -> "amiga / Unknown / German / Standard / Standard"
- "Time Zone Configuration": Choose the time zone you live in.
- "Password setup": You really should add a normal user in addition to the root user (with less privileges).
- "Debian System Configuration"
- "Apt Configuration": Selecting "cdrom" and scanning the first Debian CD is sufficient. But if you prefer network installation, choose "edit sources list by hand" and insert the following lines.
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deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-archive woody main contrib non-free deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-archive woody main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ woody/updates main

- "Add another apt source?" -> "No"
- "Use security updates from security.debian.org?" -> "No": This is important, as otherwise there will be a partial update to Debian 4.0 (Etch), which requires a newer kernel!
- "Run tasksel?" -> "Yes": Only choose the language environment you need. The remaining parts will be installed by updating to Debian Sarge later.
- "Run dselect?" -> "No"

When installing the locales-package (German environment), you should select the following options:
- "Select locales to be generated" -> "de_DE@euro ISO-8859-15"
- "Which locale should be the default in the system environment?" -> "de_DE@euro"

Congratulations! You have a localized Debian Woody base system on your Miggy now!

Update to Debian 3.1 (Sarge)

Login as root and install aptitude, because aptitude has better dependency handling than apt-get.
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apt-get install aptitude

Then change the apt-sources to Sarge with "nano /etc/apt/sources.list".
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deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main

Now you can update the package lists
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aptitude update

and upgrade aptitude to Debian Sarge
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aptitude install aptitude

The real upgrade can now started with
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aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade

Verify your coffee and cookie supply - this will take a while.

Install additional components

After the base system has been successfully updated to Debian 3.1, you can install additional packages with "tasksel" or "aptitude" (recommended). If you want a nearly complete desktop system with GNOME and KDE, select the following entries with aptitude by pressing [+]:
- "Tasks" -> "End-user" -> "Desktop environment"
- "Localization" -> "German desktop"
- "Localization" -> "German environment"

By pressing [g] twice, about 600 MB will be downloaded and installed. You will be asked a number of questions and you can always choose the default options. Only the X server requires some special attention:
- "Select the desired X server driver" -> "fbdev": Kernel 2.4.18 has no support for the local PCI slot of the CSPPC/BPPC compiled in, so you can't use the faster "glint" driver for Permedia2 unfortunately.
- "Please enter the video card's bus identifier" -> ""
- "Use kernel framebuffer device interface?" -> "Yes"
- "Please select the XKB rule set to use" -> "xfree86"
- "Please select your keyboard model" -> "amiga"
- "Please select your keyboard layout" -> "de"
- "Please select your keyboard variant" -> ""
- "Please select your keyboard options" -> ""
- "Please choose your mouse port" -> "/dev/amigamouse"

The XKB rule set for Amiga isn't complete and the existing keycode and symbol tables aren't really usable, so you better disable the XKB extension: Edit the keyboard section with "nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4", remove the entries for "XkbRules", "XkbModel" and "XkbLayout" and insert the following two lines instead.
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Option "XkbDisable" Option "CustomKeycodes"

This way, the X server will use the console keymap, which works quite well with exception of the @ and ¤ symbols. For mapping these keys as well, you should create an appropriate Xmodmap like this.
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wget -O /etc/X11/Xmodmap http://people.debian.org/~cts/debian-m68k/misc/Xmodmap

Debian Sarge is now completely installed and will present you with a graphical login screen the next time you reboot (via "reboot" command - not [Ctrl][Amiga][Amiga]!).

Configure sound

The Paula sound driver isn't statically compiled into kernel 2.4.18, as it would collide with the heartbeat (blinking of the power LED). The module can be activated once with "modprobe dmasound_paula" or you can configure it to start automatically by using "modconf": Select "kernel/drivers/sound/dmasound/dmasound_core" and choose the following Command-Line Arguments to prevent jerky sound with heavy CPU load.
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numWriteBufs=16 writeBufSize=8192

Now select "kernel/drivers/sound/dmasound/dmasound_paula" and the sound modules will be loaded automatically each time you're booting Linux.
For being able to use the sound device "/dev/dsp" as normal user (i.e. not root), you have to add the user to the "audio" group, which can be done with the "User & Groups" preferences using GNOME or KDE.

Firefox

The versions of Mozilla or Firefox in Debian Sarge are quite old and crash often when running bad JavaScript. But there is a very stable backport of Firefox 1.5 for Debian Sarge: Insert the following apt source with "nano /etc/apt/sources.list".
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deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/backports.org sarge-backports main contrib non-free

After running "aptitude update", Firefox 1.5 can be installed with aptitude.

Last edited by ville9 on 01-Jul-2008 at 03:04 AM.