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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 13-Jul-2008 23:02:35
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| In the meantime I've recompiled it for AmiCygnix and it is now very stable (as far I can see) Only forms are not working. Hope I can fix this.
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That's really impressive.How is the memory footprint over OWB? |
NetSurf needs about 17 MB to start. The binaries size is 14 MB.
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It can handle css and such though? |
Yes - and it renders the pages in a high quality and is much faster than OWB. Only the GTK-GUI is a bit slowlier. Here is a snapshot of the new NetSurf for AmiCygnix:
Here is a feature list:
- HTML 4.01 - XHTML 1.0 - CSS 2.1 - HTTP/1.1 - HTTP Authentication - PNG and MNG support - Cookies
Javascript is planned. There is already a library "libdom" under development, but not intergrated in NetSurf.
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WOW, looking forward for the release |
As this browser is much more stable than my osb-browser, NetSurf will replace osb-browser for sure. Can't say at the moment, when I will make a release..._________________ X-5000 PPC 5020/2 GHZ, Fractal Define XL R2-Tower, OS 4.1 final update 2, 4 GB, Radeon HD 7770, ESI Juli@ XTe SAM 460ex/1,15 GHZ, OS 4.1 final, 2 GB, Radeon HD 6450 Amiga 4000D/040 25 Mhz, OS 3.9 BB2, 272 MB, X-Surf, 250 MB ZIP |
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 14-Jul-2008 0:19:58
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| @CygnusEd
Wow. Really great.
Keep up the good work!
I'm sure people who have complained about the lack of proper standards and CSS support in Amiga browsers will find this really useful... and also just anyone else of course!
I wish I had OS4 in some form to test it for myself but i'm sure others will be able to do that for you.
And again, thanks!
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 14-Jul-2008 4:15:43
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CygnusEd wrote: @fairlanefastback
Had a look at this program and it sounds very interesting. I've made a quick port using my (buggy) DirectFB/Cygnix port. NetSurf is really very portable and it compiled without any change (Congratulation to the NetSurf team!).
Here is a screenshot:
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Awesome! Thanks for running with this idea, this is really cool!Last edited by fairlanefastback on 14-Jul-2008 at 04:16 AM. Last edited by fairlanefastback on 14-Jul-2008 at 04:16 AM.
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 14-Jul-2008 5:49:08
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| hello,
interesting for AOS3.x with 68k classic amiga:
- Just 16 mo of memory for using. - More speed than OWB on 68k (as said previously on the thread).
Maybe the program work direclty with old 68k port of SDL ???.
Please consider this possibility, CygnusEd, thanks _________________ BTW, what you have done for the amiga today ????
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 14-Jul-2008 10:21:58
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 14-Jul-2008 12:02:23
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Yeah, that would be very interesting for OS3! _________________ The only spanish amiga news web page/club: CUAZ |
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 14-Jul-2008 15:15:21
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| @CygnusEd
do you have a donation bottum ???
good news indeed..
there is public showing of the os 4.1 whot is the "new browser" ?? |
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 14-Jul-2008 15:17:54
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 14-Jul-2008 16:28:45
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wohoo man...this is nice... _________________ --
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 14-Jul-2008 20:02:39
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| @CygnusEd
Please try and convert the gtk calls to AmigaOS native. I had a look at the source and the code in gtk/ will need rewriting - but you'll need to find out exactly which functions need to be rewritten.
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 14-Jul-2008 23:55:25
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| @CygnusEd
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It has no javascript |
But it was still nice of you to get an interest to it!
Maybe the javascript interpreter Spidermonkey (OS4Depot) could be integrated somehow?
I might as well remind that AWeb is being reworked to support the KHTML engine. Patience is gold. Last edited by mwoof on 14-Jul-2008 at 11:59 PM.
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 15-Jul-2008 9:35:23
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| @DBAlex Quote:
I'm sure people who have complained about the lack of proper standards and CSS support in Amiga browsers will find this really useful... and also just anyone else of course! |
I think at the moment OWB is the better program, as it doen't need Cygnix and has javascript. But we must see, that NetSurf is work in progress.
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Maybe the program work directly with old 68k port of SDL ???. |
I don't have a working compiler for 68k progs. And because of time reasons I can't make such a port. NetSurf has too many dependencies, which I also have to recompile. Sorry.
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do you have a donation bottum ??? |
Of course I have . Here is a link to my donation page: http://www.schwan-clan.de/amiga/Donate.html
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Please try and convert the gtk calls to AmigaOS native. I had a look at the source and the code in gtk/ will need rewriting - but you'll need to find out exactly which functions need to be rewritten.I can't even get it to think about compiling here else I might try it myself |
Sorry, but I don't have the time to do this. I spend all my free time in developing AmiCygnix. But if you like, I can send you everything you need to compile it .
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But it was still nice of you to get an interest to it! Maybe the javascript interpreter Spidermonkey (OS4Depot) could be integrated somehow? |
I think, it is better to wait for the javascript interpreter, which is in the pipeline of the NetSurf team. I don't have an idea, how I could integrate spidermonkey.
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 15-Jul-2008 12:01:03
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How "OS4" is CygniX? Can it be ported to AROS and Classic 3.9?
(If not by you, but by someone capable that you trust with your code?:))
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 15-Jul-2008 23:44:06
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Basically it can be ported to every Amiga like OS. It MUST have a TCP/IP stack and should have the GCC compiler.
The X server has some dependencies to OS4, but nothing that couldn't be solved. The biggest problem for such a port is time. I already had some requests from people, who wanted to make a port. I never heard something from them again, after I gave them the sources. This is not a project for three hours at the weekend.
And hey: I'm writing this on NetSurf Forms are working now.
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 16-Jul-2008 6:31:12
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If someone, seriously, I said seriously, want to continue netsurf for aos3-4 and morphOS, I will offer to him CubicIDE package (if he need the program). Chris_Y maybe ???
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 16-Jul-2008 19:26:18
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...not very interesting but it does run without X/GTK!
Last edited by Chris_Y on 18-Jul-2008 at 11:46 PM. Last edited by Chris_Y on 16-Jul-2008 at 07:53 PM.
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 18-Jul-2008 17:25:15
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| @CygnusEd Wow, that's pretty amazing work. _________________ Author of the PortablE programming language. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue... |
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 18-Jul-2008 19:20:35
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| This might be only change to get nice modern web browser to 68k amiga
Just keep this thred alive until someone whos is capable to make it true found this thread :) Last edited by utri007 on 19-Jul-2008 at 06:20 PM.
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 19-Jul-2008 5:31:50
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very interesting, Chris_Y.
you have edited your post to put the grab ??? A curiousity compilation test, I think.
Thanks to take a look on netsurf and show some things will be possible with netsurf for the amiga, for a talented programmer.
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Re: Could this Open Source Web Browser be easily ported for our needs? Posted on 19-Jul-2008 7:10:15
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What work needs to be done before you can release something for us to play with?
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