I dont know how to phrase this question.... how easy will it be for someone to port Firefox to Amiga with the cairo library in OS4.1?

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Idunno, but if you look carefully at picture #3 at that 4.1 announcement page, you'll notice one of the files in one of the directory listings is _MozillaCookie.Jar.py (or something close to that, the Jar part is partly obscured so I'm not sure if that's what it actually says). That rather suggests they might already have Mozilla or Firefox or something being ported.

Then again, maybe that's just a dir of a Linux partitian.

BTW, does anyone know what's up with the giant colored dice in that same picture? Is that part of a screensaver or something?

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Hmm, maybe some floating transparent icon type thing?

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NomadOfNorad wrote: @jahc Idunno, but if you look carefully at picture #3 at that 4.1 announcement page, you'll notice one of the files in one of the directory listings is _MozillaCookie.Jar.py (or something close to that, the Jar part is partly obscured so I'm not sure if that's what it actually says). That rather suggests they might already have Mozilla or Firefox or something being ported.

I noticed it to...

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BTW, does anyone know what's up with the giant colored dice in that same picture?

It's a borderless window with an alpha channel, to demonstrate the possibility to have windows in any shape

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Cool

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Yep, it is cool. Way cool

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Can I pop by with my motherboard and borrow your BDI for 5 minutes? No working board since I did some UBoot testing for your brother last september

And I don't have a frigging clue in this case either. Must be some underlying demographic reason for it

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What you see there is a lister showing PYTHON:Lib, there is a MozillaCookieJar.py in the python library (and I have to admit I don't even know what it does. Probably some access to the stored Cookies of Firefox).

The dice are, as EntilZha pointed out, a window. You can attach an alpha bitmap to a window to make it partially transparent. What you do not see on the screenshot of course is that the window fades in and out when you open/close it.

The compositing is actually quite versatile, besides doing the regular Porter/Duff stuff, you can also use it to scale images (including bilinear filtering), plus there is the "triangle mode" which basically allows you to specify a list of triangle fragments to be composited onto the destination. You can do everything from wobbly windows and rotation to exloding/crumbling bitmaps with that.

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Can I pop by with my motherboard and borrow your BDI for 5 minutes?

If it has a G4 on it, sure no problem

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Must be some underlying demographic reason for it

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Uh, it's a 750CXe, so no. And of course the BDI2000 differentiates between those

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Have just a classcic and want a new PPC amiga with AOS4.1 inside but not possible and I'm sad

but with this announcement, the hope is still here for me

waiting if AOS4.1 with be showed by Acube som on SAM or mac Mini or new hardware...

thanks for all, hyperion and Acube and all persons involved.

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You can attach an alpha bitmap to a window to make it partially transparent

Alpha bitmap as in ARGB32 (or similar) or as in 8 bit chunky alpha channel only bitmap?

Does the screenmode/depth need to be 32 bit (ARGB32 or similar) or are 15/16 bit ones supported, too?

I just love this news about os4.1 :D

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Have just a classcic and want a new PPC amiga with AOS4.1 inside but not possible and I'm sad

I don't know for sure, but I *think* (notice: I think) 4.1 is also planned for the classic, but it will be a while.

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Alpha bitmap as in ARGB32 (or similar) or as in 8 bit chunky alpha channel only bitmap?

It's a new bitmap type RGBF_ALPHA8, and it's an 8 bit chunky alpha channel only map.

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Does the screenmode/depth need to be 32 bit (ARGB32 or similar) or are 15/16 bit ones supported, too?

It works on all true-color screen modes (including 15/16 bit). I could have made 8 bits work too, since the Radeons support a 332 8 bit truecolor mode, but that is a bit over the top IMO

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I don't know for sure, but I *think* (notice: I think) 4.1 is also planned for the classic, but it will be a while.

Hope that will be possible for classic user. For my side, I have no PPC for my classic amiga but hope to see soon another hardware for PPC (1ghz aone to 1.4 ghz mac mini) to use aos 4.1 on. During this time, I wait and dream after amiga PPC

thanks for answering me.

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Quote: Have just a classcic and want a new PPC amiga with AOS4.1 inside but not possible and I'm sad I don't know for sure, but I *think* (notice: I think) 4.1 is also planned for the classic, but it will be a while.

And the Sam440EP?

Maybe ACube could call it the AmigaOne 440EP...

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I don't know for sure, but I *think* (notice: I think) 4.1 is also planned for the classic, but it will be a while.

better if you ported AmigsOS4.1 to Sam440 and/or Elfika2

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And the Sam440EP? Maybe ACube could call it the AmigaOne 440EP...

Maybe they should leave the name "Amiga" out of the board name and have it work with OS 4.1 by sheer coincidence. The original IBM PC was made from available off-the-shelf parts and other computer makers were able to "clone" the IBM PC.

If someone invented a copy-protection scheme for all their of their commercial software including a certain operating system and licensed it to a particular hardware manufacturer, wouldn't that be different than selling or licensing the operating system to said hardware manufacturer

Hmmm. My comments are probably OT fro this thread but I'd like to hear more comments about the possibility of porting FireFox to OS 4.1.

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The original IBM PC was made from available off-the-shelf parts and other computer makers were able to "clone" the IBM PC.

Unfortunatley for IBM, Microsoft was able to sell OS Licenses to all the clone makers, without IBM's agreement.

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