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Poll : OS4.1 on SAM will...
...never be legally sold
...sell tens of thousands and make everyone happy!
 
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Benji 
[Poll] And the new lawsuit is...
Posted on 17-Sep-2008 18:37:53
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...surely imminent?

Unless OS4.1+SAM has the blessing of Amiga Inc I cant see this getting beyond being just an announcement.

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Rudei 
Re: [Poll] And the new lawsuit is...
Posted on 17-Sep-2008 18:39:13
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@Benji

Hopefully option 2.

Rude!

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Re: [Poll] And the new lawsuit is...
Posted on 17-Sep-2008 20:55:42
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@Benji

why do you even bother dooing this? , do you even think that it will do one of them or are you just trying to stirr everyone up?

I think (personally and as an long time Amiga Only user) that it will not be able to do either of the above (both are wrong).

That is, atleast for the forseable future anyway, if it can sell 9999 units then i am sure Hyperion will be happy for now and even that is a high number for now although things might pick up if the lawsuit is cleared out of it all and ofcourse if we see more software.


PS: do you think they would have released 4.1 for A1 if they thought they would be in deep doodoo?..or for that matter..go as far as dooing it for the Classic (4.0) or even SAM with 4.1 ?.. seriously, this is not only an announcement.


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Re: [Poll] And the new lawsuit is...
Posted on 17-Sep-2008 21:16:29
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@Benji

Some possibilities:

1 - A Inc and Hyperion have come to a mutual agreement that sales may take place at least until the mediation in November, where full terms will be thrashed out.

2 - Amiga Inc are about to file for bankruptcy. Hyperion have got wind of this and have decided to get OS 4.1 out for SAM as they will face no legal challenge.

3 - Hyperion have run out of capital and have had to resort to selling this in spite of legal disputes, simply to keep afloat.

please feel free to add any of your own!

I'm sure the next few days will be very interesting, anyhow!

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Posted on 17-Sep-2008 21:33:18
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@Benji

Oh dear (tm), you've found us out..

All of us with A1's have been using OS3.9 under emulation all this time..

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Toaks 
Re: [Poll] And the new lawsuit is...
Posted on 17-Sep-2008 21:54:27
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@Benji

funny thing is, if what youre saying then they will have to stop the sales of the A1/UA1c's aswell as they never got the blessing either....according to the AmigaInc side of the lawsuit.

Wonder how they will pull that one off.

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Plaz 
Re: [Poll] And the new lawsuit is...
Posted on 17-Sep-2008 21:59:08
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@Benji

I also hope it's #2 and that Hyperion and AI have reached an agreement. If not, then there's number 3.....
Hundreds are sold making many happy, at least untill AI slap on an injunction.

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Re: [Poll] And the new lawsuit is...
Posted on 17-Sep-2008 22:01:42
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@Toaks

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stirr everyone up?


Definitely that one. It has been very quite lately. The smallest event can be a big deal. This is bound to cause big waves.

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Re: [Poll] And the new lawsuit is...
Posted on 17-Sep-2008 22:03:54
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@Benji

The most likey outcome is somewhere between those two extremes.

Once again, deprived of any meaningful selection on the poll, I vote for... pancakes.

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Posted on 17-Sep-2008 22:15:47
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@sundown

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Oh dear (tm), you've found us out..

All of us with A1's have been using OS3.9 under emulation all this time..


Oh no! It wasn't me who let that cat out of the bag.

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Re: [Poll] And the new lawsuit is...
Posted on 17-Sep-2008 22:31:57
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@Moxee

I'm up to my eye balls with cats here, now which one of us is going to clean up the mess?

Amiwest should be fun this year, start packing!

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Re: [Poll] And the new lawsuit is...
Posted on 17-Sep-2008 22:33:10
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@Benji

I doubt Hyperion would announce this unless they were sure of their legal footing.

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Benji 
Re: [Poll] And the new lawsuit is...
Posted on 17-Sep-2008 23:00:54
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@Pleng

Quote:
1 - A Inc and Hyperion have come to a mutual agreement that sales may take place at least until the mediation in November, where full terms will be thrashed out. 2 - Amiga Inc are about to file for bankruptcy. Hyperion have got wind of this and have decided to get OS 4.1 out for SAM as they will face no legal challenge. 3 - Hyperion have run out of capital and have had to resort to selling this in spite of legal disputes, simply to keep afloat.


I started the thread to prompt some theories into what is really going on - those three are actually the conclusions I came to - the first being positive and resulting in sales making AI and Hyperion happy, the third being the path to another lawsuit. Two would also be an interesting possibility...

Though you would think if it was good news (ie agreement!) then everyone would be announcing it one way or another...

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Benji 
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Posted on 17-Sep-2008 23:02:13
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@RacerX

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I doubt Hyperion would announce this unless they were sure of their legal footing.


Not sure if you have noticed - but they arent too good at keeping out of court...

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Posted on 17-Sep-2008 23:11:08
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@Toaks

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why do you even bother dooing this? , do you even think that it will do one of them or are you just trying to stirr everyone up?


Come on, its not as if its an unlikely scenario that this is all going to go horribly wrong?! There is a little bit of hope left that we might even get a "Power User" motherboard from ACK next month... Stranger things have happened.

Anyone heard from Jamie Kruger recently?

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Posted on 17-Sep-2008 23:16:36
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@sundown

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you've found us out


Thats just spooky - I have an email from Bill McEwen with almost exactly the same phrase... It wasnt about OS3.9 though!

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Posted on 17-Sep-2008 23:22:32
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@Benji
The armchair lawyers won't be able to tell you anything anyway so why not just pre-order your new Amiga right now instead.

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Speculation is cute and all but this is real.

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Benji 
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Posted on 18-Sep-2008 0:03:43
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@ssolie

I dont have £600 to spend on such a limited machine.

My needs are for machines that can record/stream TV/play media, another as a server/HD video editor and also a laptop/netbook. Until there is an Amiga that can replace one of those three I cant justify spending...

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@Rudei

Nowt

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Posted on 18-Sep-2008 0:20:58
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@Benji

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There is a little bit of hope left that we might even get a "Power User" motherboard from ACK next month


At the risk of betraying a confidence, but weighing that against the users' right to know the truth at this juncture:
That is not going to happen.

The point here is to get -something- out there.
We can debate the future after that takes place.

#6

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