Hello,


Please forgive me for asking this question but I am really wanting to know this, is it possible when the message box of Guru meditation comes up that there is like a theme where instead of the default message I can make the background black, have a flashing red box frame like Amiga 500 and have the fonts to be red? THAT WOULD SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RULE!! Thanks in advance.

I am going to push it with this question, is there also a tiny little driver or software that when it detects the crashing of a software it causes the power LED of my Amiga to flash with the Guru Mediation flashing box? THAT WOULD BE UNBELIEVABLY HOT!!! Thanks in advance.

@Foody

First of all Gurus stop multitasking, so thats some thing you don't won't.

Gurus are some thing almost never see when using AmigaOS4.1,
but if you unlucky you can get yellow recoverable alert.

Grim repair stops most of major problems, it can reporting stack traces and lots more debug information, like CPU registeries and disassembled machine code, and it does not stop multitasking, so a huge improvement just there over AmigaOS3.

if the computer locks up, you can do warm boot and recover debug information, using this command.

C:DumpDebugBuffer

Developing software and fixing bugs is 100% more fun.

Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 17-Jan-2010 at 12:36 AM.
Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 17-Jan-2010 at 12:35 AM.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

I was hoping someone would misinterpret me so I have to go all my way to repeat myself by reexplaining what I want as I love typing . First let me clarify:

1) I do not want the old system of Amiga classic crashing
2) I do not want to stop the multi-tasking and go complete black screen and have on top of the screen a red flashing border

What I want:

When if or ever it crashes a software you will get a grim repear with a dialog box saying "Guru meditation" there you can dump the error, debug do all the good stuff that AmigaOS 4.1 have improved over the classic OS. That I do not want to change. I repeat, the new system of AmigaOS 4.1 I do not want to change. I want to conclude I do not want the old system back. What I want is this.

I want when the grim ripper appear to cloth it with a theme that instead of having the default dialog box with the triangle error as shown in AmigaOS 4.1, that for that one either through a tiny, tiny, tiny, driver or external hidden program or some sort of script, something that cloth that particular grim repeat window with the background of that dialog box to be completely block and surrounded with a flashing red box like the classic Amiga 500 error when you get the guru meditation. You get that adorable flashing box, I want something like that for that only specific dialog box when you get grim ripper. The fonts of the grim ripper window would be red and the buttons have to match the new look of the theme. all I am asking is a little clothing theme of the grim reappear for stupid psychological satisfaction. That is all. Next, if it is possible while the flashing box border is occurring on that dialog box that a tiny, tiny, tiny driver will cause the power LED to flash with synchronization of the border flashing of the dialog box and when you close the dialog box regardless of the button you push when it pops up with it, the power LED becomes complete lid again.

Ones again what I am asking is obviously stupid, unnecessary and majority of the Amiga community here don't care for it. But it is for me as a psychological thing if there is an option for me to have this? If it is possible? Thanks in advance.

@Foody

it seams like a lot of work for some thing you only see once a year.
if you ask me, I just like to have it removed.

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@Foody

It is possible to replace the Grim Reaper application. If someone writes one that emulates a Guru Meditation then you would get just that.

Blinking power LED I'm not so sure is possible though.

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@zerohero

Are you guys saying AmigaOS 4.1 and it's application is more stable than Mac, and Linux combined that if I was to use an OS for a server it is recommended an AmigaOS over Linux?

@Foody

Eh? No, that is not what I was saying at all. Not even remotely close.

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Actually I am super curious now and I am serious here. If was to buy another system solely for a purpose for running a server for example, for whatever is the reason, do you guys recommend Amiga over Linux and Mac for example? Is AmigaOS more reliable in terms of stability over Linux or Mac? Is AmigaOS more reliable in terms of virus free over Linux or Mac and finally is AmigaOS more reliable in terms of security over Linux or Mac? Because if you answered yes to those three questions, the guy who was asking earlier give me an excuse to buy an AmigaOS 4.1, I would give him this excuse to the dot. Buy it for server purposes. So question, are there yes for all these three questions? Thanks in advance.

@Foody

No! If you want a server you use LINUX/UNIX/BSD or something like that. YOU DO NOT USE AMIGAOS ON SERVERS. I hope that was clear enough for you... Now, stay on topic in your own threads, please.

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@Foody

The Guru box is drawn by Intuition in response to an Alert. There are recoverable and non-recoverable Alerts but they are not crashes that open the GR. Any program can raise an Alert and do the Guru thing on the screen.

The Guru thing is a damned nuisance because it disables multitasking or interrupts or something. In any case, USB stops working while the Guru is displayed, so if you have a Sam or other modern machine with no PS/2 mouse, you're stuffed.

Don't expect the red and yellow Alerts to hang around for much longer. I suspect they'll be taken off the air pretty soon. There are new features like Ringhio to replace them in a much more system-friendly way.

The flashing power LED on the old Classic Amigas was only possible because the LED was wired up so that its intensity could be changed. They did it by wiring the audio filter enable to the LED, so to make the LED blink, you had to turn the audio filter on and off! It was a hack in the finest sense of the word and I'm sure it won't be offered as a feature ever again.

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@tonyw

In that case I better hurry and buy AmigaOS 4.1 before it goes away so I can enjoy the yellow recover alert. Is there a screenshot of the new Ringhio? I am curious how it looks like.

@Foody

I am on your side here.. The word "Guru Meditation", and its optical style is one of the "Amigaisms", our platforms "heritage" so to say, that we should try to keep alive in one form or the other.

It's what differentiates ours from other, more faceless OSes and gives the Amiga identity. (more of that would be draggable Screens, double-state-icons, drawers instead of directories, and I would even go so far and calling the OS "Workbench and Kickstart" instead of "Amiga OS", but I know , that's far out :D )...

@steril606

Next thing they want is a RAMless, non-double-state-icons, non-changing-size-of-icon (having a small icon sitting beside an enormous icon) and turning it into Linux kernal and calling it Amiga and cheering it. The more the new AmigaOS chatters away from the cool stuff the classic Amiga have, the more it becomes a faceless OS, the more it becomes like any other OS with nothing special about it, the more it becomes garbage. If the newers AmigaOS's becomes like Linux or Windows or Mac, I would burn it away because you are better off with Windows over Mac and Linux. You better stop developing Amiga, shutdown amigaworld.net and any other Amiga related site, Amigakit.com should drop their business and declare bankruptcy and we can happily say Amiga is no more and throw our hats on the air cheering, while blowing toooooooooooooot.

The reason for that, at least Windows have all the software you need even developing for xBox 360 languages, why would I want a trash AmigaOS that mimics to the dot modern OS with no Amiga touch and have zero software and I cannot even use Microsoft XNA or Visual Studio?. Like the moon and other planets, a meteoroid have hit Amiga hard (what's left of it) and a piece of it have chattered away into outerspace. That piece now is called Guru or red alert, the next meteoroid it is going to hit away is the yellow alert. I wonder what is next of this tiny little "destroyed planet" will be?

@Foody

Well, you are going a little bit over the top here maybe...

but I agree, it's those little differences which keep the Amigafeeling alive.

Off course you always need to think about, if those things are keeping things from being usable. For instance, I still don't get the RIGHT amigakey + X/C/V for cut/copy/paste. It seems going against usability having to use two hands to do something I need just one hand on other OSes, and it wouldn't break anything to being able to use the LEFT amigakey to accomplish that stuff.
So, on that topic, I am for change. Or the new autoupdating of folders when stuff gets copied into them is a good idea.

But for stuff, that doesn't get in the way of usability, I think we should try to keep as much as possible (draggable Screens, Gurus, DoubleState Icons, Drawers, StartupSequence, CLI, etc).

It's what makes the Amiga the Amiga...