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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 11:36:36
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I also don't understand why you are losing heart right now - obviously we've never been so close to an actual release of the biggest leap in AmigaOS history.
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I, for one, am glad that Hyperion is taking all the time that is needed to make a good quality release of the OS4 beta firstly and the final version then...
The biggest thanks from me to all these great guys that are taking AmigaOS to the next step of its hystory with all the troubles that we all know... _________________ ------------------------------- AmigaOS, the last hope... |
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 11:46:22
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Unless you think that we're talking gibberish. |
Oh, no. On saturday 7:th of February, I´m going to pick up my brand new A1 from Gunne.
So soon my looooong wait will be over.
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 11:59:12
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On saturday 7:th of February, I´m going to pick up my brand new A1 from Gunne.
So soon my looooong wait will be over. |
Now that's about time!!
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 12:02:11
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| Ok guys, calm down a bit. I've seen what is going on in the background, there is a he!! of a lot of work going on, it's going to take a little bit of time to remove some of the 'undocumented features' before the CD can be released to the earlybirders (nothing serious btw, just minor niggles, but that's what betatesters are for, afterall).
I'm sure that unless it's almost perfect certain people (with a blueish tint) will blow any glitches up out of all proportion and spread them faster than a virus in windows...
So, relax, think happy thoughts and wait just a bit longer, is getting closer...
ps. I hope I don't get into too much trouble for this... _________________ OS4 Rocks X1000 beta tester, Sam440 Flex (733)
Visit the Official OS4 Support Site for more help.
It may be that your sole purpose is to serve as a warning to others. |
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 12:31:31
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Well i´m not in to Linux, but when the beta was announced early 2004, I couldn´t wait any longer.
The ugly hole in my 19" rack, won´t be there so much longer.
AMIGA Back for the future
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 12:38:40
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 12:41:45
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 12:52:01
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| @tomazkid I don´t want to learn Linux.
I wan´t my A1 with AOs4 as quickly as possible.
BTW i dont like the RTFM smilie. I´m allways afraid he´ll throw the book at me.
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 12:57:12
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AMIGA Back for the future |
You know, this poster hangs here at my place since 1998 i think. It is abouth time that i replace it with an other one.
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 12:57:53
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I don´t want to learn Linux.
I wan´t my A1 with AOs4 as quickly as possible. |
It is not difficult to set up a working Debian, so that you can use it for surfing the net listening to mp3:s. and if AOS4 gets delayed a month or two, you got to use your A1 for something, IMHO.
And Linux is the only choise before OS4 comes. _________________ Site admins are people too..pooff! |
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 13:04:37
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 13:36:05
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hi rogue.
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i'm losing heart right now with so little news happening and people saying "When it's ready" isn't helping, |
The only thing that helps is getting it out. "When it's done" is the only thing you will hear from me.
I don't know why people complain about a lack of news - I'm always here for answering questions. |
ok - here are some questions with (hopefully) interesting answery from your side:
- comparing the upcoming prerelease and the final release later this year: what will be missing in the prerelease?
- comparing the just released beta version of os4 and the prerelease: what is still an open issue to be solved for the prerelease? or is it just bug fixing?
- what is missing in the cyberstorm version of os4 to be released?
- what is ben hermans doing these days?
thanks in advance for your answers.
byebye..._________________ Michael Merkel (Michael.Merkel@gmx.net Home) Member of Amiga-Freunde Pfalz, OS4 Welt |
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 13:52:30
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comparing the upcoming prerelease and the final release later this year: what will be missing in the prerelease? |
A lot. The prerelease will be more or less bare, only include the system itself and SDK. No contribs or anything. It will also only feature Radeon and Voodoo support (no SNAP), and will probably still include the 68k Picasso96.
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comparing the just released beta version of os4 and the prerelease: what is still an open issue to be solved for the prerelease? or is it just bug fixing? |
Yes. Even a small number of bug reports/issues with the CD and system will be multiplied by the number of Earlybird systems out there. We need to take that into account. Even if these problems do pop up, it's always better to know an answer.
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what is missing in the cyberstorm version of os4 to be released? |
A few drivers need to be finalized, and Picasso96 converted. The latter is underway, but doe to the myriads of other things that always pop up going was slower than expected.
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what is ben hermans doing these days? |
Working as usual. You got to ask him personally if you want details, though _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 13:59:03
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Any chance of a screenshot or two? (perhaps of the system booting if it displays data?)
We appreciate the work!
....And what is your most used tool or application on OS4? (I suspect gcc??)
Bean. _________________ OS4.1 + SAM Flex RIP my A1XE.. that used to have an appetite for batteries! |
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 14:14:56
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| @tomazkid I don´t want to learn Linux, I just want to use AOs4.
Frankly no penguins
@Bodie_CI5 Thanx mate.
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 15:20:24
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why the conversion of P96 isn't done by its authors?? Did you get the sources??
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 16:22:25
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We have only heard about the amigaone version in the last few months, what about the csppc version? Is it more advanced and closer to the release than the Aone version? Or will both versions be released at the same time now as the Aone version seems to have a higher priority now? |
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 16:35:50
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Any chance of a screenshot or two? |
I'll see what I can do. I can't usually just put things out without clearance.
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..And what is your most used tool or application on OS4? (I suspect gcc??) |
Yes, gcc is high up, as well as IBrowse and (cough) Quake/Quake II._________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 16:37:21
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why the conversion of P96 isn't done by its authors?? Did you get the sources?? |
I didn't say they don't do it. It's a project where more than two people participate. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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Re: OS4 - sigh Posted on 29-Jan-2004 16:46:03
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We have only heard about the amigaone version in the last few months, what about the csppc version? Is it more advanced and closer to the release than the Aone version? Or will both versions be released at the same time now as the Aone version seems to have a higher priority now? |
We certainly spend more time on the AmigaOne version specifically, but any change in the system will benefit the classic version as well. The classic version is practically on the same level as the AmigaOne version. The major part being worked on (Picasso96) is for both. On the AmigaOne side there is more gaps to be filled (drivers mostly), so you mostly hear things about the AmigaOne version currently.
However, most of the OS is system-independend. We had, for example, a new release of Workbench yesterday with improvements like life select (icons go to "active" state while you drag-select) and customizable screen title bar (put things like Version strings, memory displays like public/fast/graphics, CPU display etc in the title bar) and a myriad of other little fixes. Of course this applies to all thee versions of OS 4 (AmigaOne, CSPPC and Blizzard).
Most certainly the release dates of the CSPPC/Blizzard version and the AmigaOne version have moved closer together due to this (with the classic version being pushed back). It doesn't mean, though, that the classic version is standing still or anything. The idea is still to have the classic version released first._________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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