Well if it is true about the other threads...

I invested in OS4, I invested in OS4.1 (twice)
I invested in a Micro A1, I invested in a Sam-Flex.

Now it seems I've wasted my time, money and faith in this platform.

I have an X1000 beta test contract in front of me. Should I bother signing it?

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@Wizzard_o

Whatever ainc does,only hyperion can make amigaos. I really don't interest me what they do. If the drop dead,fine i say.

Whatever they do, i won't change anything for me and my love for amigaos.

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@Wizzard_o

why should it matter?

If you like AmigaOS 4 then use it... the X1000 is still an Amigaone.

So even if Commodore usa did get the rights to use Amiga for thier lines of computers why should that change how you view your chosen platform?

Tim

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@Wizzard_o
Hyperion still owns the Amiga OS name and OS.
If you let this #### company change your mind then they have won...

I have a feeling that commodoreusa website is pretty much another iwin hoax anyways.

@terminills

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So even if Commodore usa did get the rights to use Amiga for thier lines of computers why should that change how you view your chosen platform

+1

There's still market for PPC Amigas

As to your stabbing at the back... Amiga Inc owns Amiga IP rights and they are free to do with them what they like. Nobody could see this coming a year ago, let even before that.

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Im afraid what I said before, Ill have to say again. The only way to sort this screwup finally, is to win teh lotto, hostile takeover AInc, then sue them into oblivion to get your money back.

I AM being nice. If I wasnt, Id be working 16 hours a day on my crazy insane ideas, and arguments about computers would be the least of your problems.

What worries me is that Im only 5 years ahead of announced theoretical research in a lot of places, and we need 20 years to adapt. 8(

AInc is like the legal system, its not too bad the Law being a screwup, if the Judges know it is and comensate accordingly. Its when you get Judges that arent in it for the public good thats teh problem. 8(

AInc are just in it for the money..with Hyperion being successful, they had to find alternatives. They have.

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@Wizzard_o

Don't worry, continue to use your OS4, this is only a funny hoax

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@Wizzard_o

At first I was thinking it's a bad joke or bad night dream. It's starting to look like a hoax. But will it hurt Amiga platform even more. Another court case coming. How long it takes before that hoax will be taken down. These things confusing people even more. I'm thinking to give up !

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@Wizzard_o

Do not be discouraged my friend!

In this news item, we have a computer chop shop teaming up with a con artist. Not a technology company in sight.

Hyperion and A-eon are technology companies, employing skilled engineers that are doing the hard work of moving Amiga into the present day. They are a respectable engineering team with a record of delivery (Hyperion anyway) you can feed good about associating with.

To be discouraged by the efforts of the chop shop and the con artist, from contributing to X1000 would be like throwing out your Mercedes Benz, because some guy in a trailer was building a go-cart from used parts and sticking pretty, name-brand labels on it.

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Hyperion and A-eon are technology companies

I can agree with that

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that are doing the hard work of moving Amiga into the present day.

That I cannot agree with... They are moving amiga somewhere between 2000 and 2005 and on the wrong platform at that.

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@Wizzard_o

I really think it doesn't effect anything - I still have lot's of fun with my AmigaOS systems and will continue to do so. It will *only* have an effect when AmigaOS4.x (or whatever will come after that) will be ported to x86. Which isn't likely to happen...

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@Wizzard_o

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Wizzard_o wrote: I invested in OS4, I invested in OS4.1 (twice) I invested in a Micro A1, I invested in a Sam-Flex. Now it seems I've wasted my time, money and faith in this platform.

Look, CommodoreUSA has just announced to do what Hyperion could have done two years ago. Hyperion could have supported cheap hardware, from used PPC Macs to new x86 boards, they could have switches to use AROS.

Now someone else offers what Hyperion didn't offer to his users.

You should ask yourself who stabbed who ?

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I borrowed this comments from here (#27 & #28):
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38873&forum=2&start=20&order=0

@Wizzard_o

Just sign it and continue on the road you're already walking. The X1000 promises to be a wonderful and unique system where as the 'Commodore Amiga' systems are 'just' re-badged PCs (I know, I've stated that most probably eventually that would have been the situation right now IF Commodore never went bust and IF Amiga had become a main product for them and IF Apple wasn't such a hype as it is now....). Also, keep in mind that Hyperion has shown in the past that it delivers on its promises, as did ACube and, I believe, that's what A-Eon will do as well. Bear in mind that who ever owned the Amiga and or Commodore brand in the past, all went bust or nearly bust.

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@Arko
It is just a standard pc running AROS. Nothing to do with amiga besides name which they most likely dont even have a license for. You cant blame hyperion for not porting it to x86 in the past since they did not have a license for that anyways. It is only after the court case ended that they could have started with such a port.

There are plenty of other x86 systems that runs AROS, so what is the point??
AROS is still nowhere near as mature as OS4.1 either...

@Wizzard_o

Oh and by the way:

If your loyalty to Hyperion and their AOS4 depends on the exclusive right to have the Name "Amiga" in their product, you should rethink why you where buying it. Nothing will change with AOS4 or A-Eon if there is someone else who has the right to use the name Amiga.

Or where your reasons to be an AOS4 user influenced by a name that could just be bought sold or rented like a car ?

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I borrowed this comments from here (#27 & #28):
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38873&forum=2&start=20&order=0

@Wizzard_o
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I have an X1000 beta test contract in front of me. Should I bother signing it?

I noticed you used the word "invested" a few times. Computers are not an investment. Computers are expenses. If you are not willing to lose everything you paid for any computer system then you should not be taking such risks in my opinion.

Was it a waste of time? Only if you didn't enjoy the ride. I'm enjoying the ride. And the ride is going to get even more fun with multi-core support.

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@Tomas

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AROS is still nowhere near as mature as OS4.1 either...

They keep saying that as some kind of comfort. But AROS are mature in some areas where OS4 isn't too. Personally I await the day when AW users stops the p*ssing contests.

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@samo79

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samo79 wrote: @Wizzard_o Don't worry, continue to use your OS4, this is only a funny hoax

Until the Workbench 5 comes out! ;) Then we have a quite new situation... :)

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@Wizzard_o
If it's true I see a lot of legal stuff coming up again unless "Commodore" gives up on the Amiga name/ Aros bundle.

I also got on the AmigaOS4 train early on and have invested in various AmigaOS4 licenses but I don't see that as vasted investment and don't understand why you should feel that way.

If I could afford it I would go for the X1000 right away, it will run AmigaOS unlike any Commodore USA products.

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@Wizzard_o

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feel like A-inc has just stabbed them in the back?

Well they did that a long time ago I think it was back in 2004 whit the t-shirt scam, and I’m a member club or something, all the shell company scams.

Now I’m only AmigaOS4.1 user and supporter, and Hyperion has won the rights to the AmigaOS brand name; so now Amiga Inc has burned all bridges and it’s about time Amiga-Inc went away and died.

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