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FryingPan source released under GNU licence
Posted on 25-Jul-2011 1:04:04
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FryingPan is now open source and it is hosted on Google page !

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This software relies heavily on an additional package, Amiga Generic framework, which was created to uniform all variations of our fantastic system.

This repository includes COMPLETE solution (FryingPan, accompanying libraries and low level engine and the Generic framework).

The sources have been opened for the sole benefit of all of those, who feel they could:

use it,
learn from it,
help with it.
Please spare me comments such as I would have done this better etc. If you really think so, you would have done that by now.

The code has been released under GNU Lesser Public License. This means that you can use it in a binary form as you please, but if you decide to make modifications to it directly, you are obliged to share your modifications with the rest of community (=us).

The Source Code has been migrated mostly from SourceForge, where the projects have been marked as Moved. Optical is the last missing piece that has been added to the package.


More info at: https://code.google.com/p/amiga-fryingpan/

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Re: FryingPan source released under GNU licence
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@samo79

GREAT NEWS!

Thank you to the authors! :)

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Re: FryingPan source released under GNU licence
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@realize

Indeed, great news. Thanks a lot to the author for releasing to the public such an useful program. I see that there are no binaries available yet, I hope they will be available soon.

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Re: FryingPan source released under GNU licence
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A good oportunity for some good coder that update us this program!

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Re: FryingPan source released under GNU licence
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@Templario
Unless there is an Amiga Mercurial client program that I don't know about, nobody who uses an Amiga will be joining the project or checking out the code. I appreciate the gesture but it doesn't make sense to me to place Amiga code in a repository that can't be accessed with an Amiga.

EDIT: I can't even browse the sources. It just says "Error retrieving directory contents".

EDIT2: O.K. You have to change the "Repository" from "default" to "app" to browse the sources. I guess I'm just not familiar with Google repositories.

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Re: FryingPan source released under GNU licence
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@Xenic

I agree that it might have been better to host the project under SVN rather than Mercurial, unless there are required features that make Mercurial a better choice than SVN. From the other side, Mercurial is written in Python and it _might_ be trivial to port it to AmigaOS.

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Re: FryingPan source released under GNU licence
Posted on 25-Jul-2011 23:00:34
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@Varthall

Mercurial "builds out of the box" but then fails due to lack of SSL / HTTPS support in python.


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Re: FryingPan source released under GNU licence
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@Xenic

According to this post, Vidar post about Git Port, Vidar has a mostly working port of Git.

Git is the best open source repo standard going these days. Mercurial is good too, but is more limited than Git and not as widely used.

Having a good Git client would make it possible for Amigans to participate in a range of open source projects on-going.

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I don't think changing the type of repository is going to improve the programs they contain. I'd rather do some minor programming of my own rather than spend time learning how to use some new repository. We now have multiple variations of AmigaOS in multiple types of repositories using multiple GUI creation systems and multiple custom compiling systems. Could it really get any more complicated for someone to contribute some programming skills? Sure, lets add a couple more repository types.

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@Xenic

I'm confused by your response. You originally said:

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Unless there is an Amiga Mercurial client program that I don't know about, nobody who uses an Amiga will be joining the project or checking out the code. I appreciate the gesture but it doesn't make sense to me to place Amiga code in a repository that can't be accessed with an Amiga.

Others then replied about alternative repositories that would make sense as an alternative because they can be accessed by an Amiga.

I simply pointed out that Git can now (or soon) be accessed by an Amiga. Therefore, if an alternative is being sought to enable Amiga access, then Git might make sense because it is Amiga compatible, and has surpassed SVN as the most widely used for open source projects.

Never suggested that changing repos would improve a program. Obviously not.

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Could it really get any more complicated for someone to contribute some programming skills? Sure, lets add a couple more repository types.

So, if there is no need to gain Amiga access, why did you raise the "can't be accessed with an Amiga" point in the first place?

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Re: FryingPan source released under GNU licence
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@jingof

Quote:

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Could it really get any more complicated for someone to contribute some programming skills? Sure, lets add a couple more repository types.

So, if there is no need to gain Amiga access, why did you raise the "can't be accessed with an Amiga" point in the first place?

His last comment was ironic. He doesn't want to see more repository types, also because of limited Amiga access.

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@thread

There a Mercurial client for AmigaOS4.1 in the upload queue of OS4 depot
(and a python ssl module to go with it)

It works well enough to clone the Fryin Pan repository.


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Re: FryingPan source released under GNU licence
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@broadblues

Yes ! All what is need now its just finish GIT normally, and so we will have most popular repos-kind tools.

Btw, just in case: you put it to driver/utility category, while it more like development/misc, or development/util. Not big deal, but sure its not driver :)

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Re: FryingPan source released under GNU licence
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did I ? I meant it to be devlopement/utility! Must have misread the menu



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Re: FryingPan source released under GNU licence
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@broadblues

Nice and useful port, thanks

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I'm using a Mac here and I can't figure out how to find it let alone download the source code here for FryingPan, the site the link points to make no sense whatsoever...

I wanted to take look at the code and compare it to my own DVD burning utils to see if there was any way to speed up FryingPan and remove the 4GB ISO size limit it has, as to me this could be a great program if it weren't for these two major flaws... :)

I'm just guessing, but it's probably written in C and I only code in assembler, might just be quicker to use ReSource and de-compile it into assembler source code, although the original source would be handy for reference... :)

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'm using a Mac here and I can't figure out how to find it let alone download the source code here for FryingPan, the site the link points to make no sense whatsoever...


It in the 'app' and 'framework' repositories

Go to the source tab on the site page and choose from the drop down list of 'default' 'app' 'framework' and 'wiki'

The framework contains cross platform stuff including a whole C library written in C++ :-0
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I wanted to take look at the code and compare it to my own DVD burning utils to see if there was any way to speed up FryingPan and remove the 4GB ISO size limit it has, as to me this could be a great program if it weren't for these two major flaws... :)

That's dowen it's use of FileInfoBlock (in part at least) which is obsolete and should be replaced

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I'm just guessing, but it's probably written in C and I only code in assembler, might just be quicker to use ReSource and de-compile it into assembler source code, although the original source would be handy for reference... :)


C++ mostly as far as I can see.

I've been trying to build it this afternoon (dispite not being able to spare the time!)

There seems to eb a high level makefile missing., bvut I've got quite abit to build by call ing the low level ones 'by hand'.


However it keeps tripping up on asome stange <? operator which is clearly meant to mean

(a < b ? a: b ) in C parlance.

some places it throws an error others not, I'm not famiiar enough wth C++ to know if it's a standrad operator or not, and I can't find any place that it's defined.

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@Varthall
I guess irony isn't as obvious when you don't "hear" the way it's stated. You're right; it
was meant to be ironic.

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@broadblues

Thanks, I managed to find it eventually (whomever designed that site needs shot)...

Anywhoo... after finding it I've decided not to bother as A) it looks like it's written in C++, and B) far too many files to download... (I prefer my code to be all in one piece)...

It will actually be simpler to just use ReSource and de-compile it into native 68K assembler, just never got round to doing it yet...

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@Xenic

Oh.. I "heard" the irony in your last sentence. It was the other sentences that didn't make sense to me, given your prior posts in this thread.

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