@realize

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realize wrote: Well guys title says it all. I find it very curious that Os4 team announces a netbook running os4 when Morphos team is about to release morphos3 and ppc laptop support. Dont you think they would show at least 1 pic of it working? Wouldnt that make sense? I'd love to see 1 credible pic of this.

Yep, you know, morphos fckin sucks man!!!,AMIGAOS4 fckin sucks too man!! VIVA LA OS4, DIE ALL OTHERS!!!! VIVA LA MOS,DIE ALL OTHERS!!!! .. grow up dude, the war ended years ago, yes i know you still belive there is one, but wake up call now.. It's over, no one won.. lots of casualites and lost developers/fanbase on both sides.

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@Zylesea

Well if you are going to discuss readyness for a mobile device for next gen Amiga, AROS has beaten both MOS and AOS4 to that particular goal.
And there is the option to buy hardware second hand or brand new at lower costs than either AOS4 or MOS.
And yet I don't see a mass exodus from either camp to AROS.

Which reinforces my belief that it doesn't really matter what any of the camps do, people will chose there prefered OS regardless.

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@Trixie

Hes probably just a spambot

@Kicko

LOL
He sure knows when to release his spam

(sorry realize, dont think you spam amigaworld, but yes i think you're too impatient and untrustfull, and starts a lot of FUD because of it)

I hope you get a X1000 soon

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@number6

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number6 wrote: If you believe what Dave has to say about classic users being the potential pool for becoming NG users, they might judge it by a different comparison than you and I might. Likely they would say it's fast compared to classic running the same apps. #6

Will it be faster for Classic users? Obviously not for games since there are no custom chips. I guess PPC based OS4 programs will be faster than a classic with a PPC card. Will 68k RTG programs be faster on OS4 with Petunia than on a classic 040/060? We shall see. Bill Buck seemed to this this CPU (assuming Limebook) was not suitable 3 years ago.

All that said, I think Hyperion can make some sales if they play their cards right. Keep the cost as low as possible, optimize to the extreme and don't pull an "OS4 Starter Edition" thing

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@ssolie

Invoking conspiracy theories...
He is from New York City and that goes with the territory! The bigger the city your from; the bigger the conspiracy... no lie, it's modern city pyschology...

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@redrumloa

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Obviously not for games since there are no custom chips.

Sorry if I was unclear when I said:
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Likely they would say it's fast compared to classic running the same apps.

I expected that would be understood as being a comparison of the same app, which would also imply to me that it ran on both machines.

I think the UAE-JIT project might play a part too, when we talk about yet to be seen comparisions.

#6

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@ssolie

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Invoking conspiracy theories, starting rumours and other such nonsense is one way to try and get more information but it didn't work for you before and it won't work for you now.

But that's the thing. He does believe it works.

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Hmm lets see I started a thread 13 pages long, actually got Aeon to release an update of the X1000 proejct and all the idiot fanboys call me a "troll" or tell me to "stfu" or "get lost" , oh and 2 abuse reports. You idiots who file a report on me should THANK ME. WAKE UP>

source

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@TiredofLife

You're absolutely right and I know (and value) AROS is in that state and actually think that's one of the greatest achievements AROS has done to users (providing plenty of hardware that is cheap, powerful, mobile). But it seems MorphOS and AROS are in bigger competition with each other than AROS is in competition with these two. Anyway, all I ask for is a bit more precise report what the hardware will be like (5212e, MTC/THTF) and how far driver development is progressed already. I mean there's that Hyperion blog - how about a post (pics&text) about this netbook and its current state of affairs?

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@Snuffy

Does that just apply to the USA or other countries as well?

There are plenty of aliens in the UK

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@redrumloa

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redrumloa wrote: Will 68k RTG programs be faster on OS4 with Petunia than on a classic 040/060? We shall see.

My benchmark with MorphOS/Trance on an e300v0/400 yields about 8 times the speed of an 68040/25. It's not too bad and Petunia is not much slower. One has to consider cache issues and the way it will be handeled by OS4. Theroretically an e300v4 should be able to outperform the v0 since its L1 cache is twice the size. Additionally the 5121e has a little SRAM on chip that could be used as some kind of tiny pseudo L2 cache (or as tricky solution to save L1 cache states). But that's not easy to implement and I have my concerns about the capacity/skills of the developers to do so in a certain time frame and with a good performance boost.

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@djrikki

You know you guys are so funny. I'm labeled a "troll" for asking for proof of its exsistance thats all I asked. Half the thread is you guys slinging mud at me and I'm the problem?


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I find it curious that you are still around. And that the coward moderators hasn't banned you yet.

If I was a mod that would be a 3 day post ban.


I look forward to some proof as per MikeyC's post.

In the meanwhile if you guys cant see that the "pre announcement" is timed with imminent release of Morphos3 for pbook I cant make you. Its pretty obvious.

@realize

The argument goes something like this:

‘I refuse to prove that I exist,’ says God, ‘for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.’ 'But,’ says Man, ‘the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance, it proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t QED.’ 'Oh dear,’ says God, ‘I hadn’t thought of that,’ and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic, “’Oh, that was easy,” says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next pedestrian crossing.

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@realize

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I look forward to some proof as per MikeyC's post. In the meanwhile if you guys cant see that the "pre announcement" is timed with imminent release of Morphos3 for pbook I cant make you. Its pretty obvious.

It will come in time when OS4 is ready (likewise noted its too early).

Nettop is no way match to a full Mac G4 laptop, and since we see MOS users aren`t much interested in OS4 nettop, what is so big deal?

Amiwest had to have some news. More hardware ports is news. Even its not genuine and expensive hardware like X1000, it is what people have been demanding long time (invoking LimePC) so its good.

Since release of MorphOS 3 is imminent there is no threat for something coming at least 6 months later. Just because its being worked on.

I wonder how don`t you see X1000 OS4 port is a threat to MOS G5 port etc.

If you wish to see only enemies, surely there are plenty.

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Realize, Im actually on your side in this question sorry could not resist: but in your country when there is no proof you make proof up so you can invade another country on false basis. Why not make up your own proof on this issue too?



j/k

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@Mikey_C

Wow the drugs in the UK must be WAAAY stronger than in the us!

@realize

Let it go man, you are the only one on here at the moment who is letting the "war" go on!

Just let it go.

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@realize

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Wow the drugs in the UK must be WAAAY stronger than in the us!

that was a douglas adams reference, by the way. and a good one. try looking up 'babelfish' on google.

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@realize

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realize wrote: Well guys title says it all. I find it very curious that Os4 team announces a netbook running os4

AFAIK Hyperion (or who ever exactly announced something) never promised they will use the name Amiga, well they can't because they have no licence.
They never announced if they will use the name AmigaOne. And today no one knows exactly what "company" will glue the AmigaOne sticker on to the LimeBook:
Will it be Hyperion, will it be A-Eon or will they get in another "hardware partner" into their boat, maybe AmigaKit, they have already some experience in the rebadgeing market.

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I borrowed this comments from here (#27 & #28):
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38873&forum=2&start=20&order=0

@realize

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In the meanwhile if you guys cant see that the "pre announcement" is timed with imminent release of Morphos3 for pbook I cant make you. Its pretty obvious.

Are you saying Hyperion should just stop producing to protect morphos?

Would the morphos team stop what they're doing to protect Hyperion's welfare?

Both sides are playing the same game, you're just to blind to see it.

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