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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 28-Jul-2014 11:37:19
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Like official Hyperion AmigaOS4.2 development |
Hyperion at least releases status reports on its blog. Realy not comparable to this Spotify project. |
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 28-Jul-2014 11:51:04
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There seem to have been a similar number of spotify updates as 4.2 4.2 progress is glacial. Hyperion blog updates are so infrequent and irregular that the user has no clue if the company has gone bust between posts.
However, to contradict myself, this recent blog post from lylehaze is interesting (but not spotify or 4.2 related ) http://blog.hyperion-entertainment.biz/?p=1136 Last edited by Xmas87 on 28-Jul-2014 at 12:02 PM. Last edited by Xmas87 on 28-Jul-2014 at 11:51 AM.
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 28-Jul-2014 12:46:08
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I can assure you that between the work for the new generation of hardware for AmigaOS 4.x, work on AmigaOS 4.2 is ongoing.
Please bear in mind however that some of the goals (SMP e.g.) were deemed "impossible" to achieve barring sandboxing the current API, at least by a quite vocal group.
Since we realize that many of you are getting somewhat impatient, there will be a "nice surprise" before the end of the year.
(We realise that "nice" is not the work some would use but there you go). _________________
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 28-Jul-2014 12:54:21
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Thanks for update. What about something portable (that "more future proof solution" you mentioned after cancelling netbook)? |
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 28-Jul-2014 12:54:48
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this recent blog post from |
Thanks for link! |
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 28-Jul-2014 13:24:21
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Thanks for the update. Are you confirming that SMP is impossible, or stating that the naysayers were wrong?
I would consider any significant progress on AmigaOS4.2 as very nice!
/apologies for dragging the Spotify thread OT. Last edited by Xmas87 on 28-Jul-2014 at 01:25 PM.
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 28-Jul-2014 19:12:03
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You're allowed to tease us a bit if your sure about this
Thanks for the info. _________________ On Planet Boing Trevor is God |
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 29-Jul-2014 9:48:56
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He's saying that they are working on proving the naysayers wrong and that they have a surprise for us. Nice bit of hinting there, without actually committing to anything
I can't remember ALL the arguments against SMP on AmigaOS, but most of the ones I can remember are of the type "it would be impractical/inefficient" rather than "impossible". Edit: Actually, the arguments typically go as "it's impossible". "why?" "because you would have to do X, which is impractical/inefficient".
I am very interested to hear technical details about what they've come up with, if anything (disclaimer so I won't be flagged as blind hyperion follower ) Last edited by olegil on 29-Jul-2014 at 09:50 AM.
_________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean. |
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 29-Jul-2014 10:56:56
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Feel free to ask Thomas but you will need to sign a NDA :) _________________
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 29-Jul-2014 11:39:42
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Would have been a lot easier to buy him a beer. Except...
Those Frieden brothers and their non-alcoholic beverage consumption, eh? Tsk, tsk. _________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean. |
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 29-Jul-2014 15:46:05
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| I don't understand why people say thank you, when Hyperion makes again an announcement. I don't believe this infos. There was so much announcements and i have seen nothing from that. Sorry i am tired of this announcements and say only thank you for real working good software
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 29-Jul-2014 15:55:03
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LOL, I agree. I forgot to add a sarcasm emoticon to my thanks. I am sorry to say, that HyperionMP's post reads just like yet another vacuos teaser announcement. Please HMP stop treating the AmigaOS faithful like children. |
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 29-Jul-2014 15:56:02
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I thought there were some minor updates since Update6 (well, MUI4 and NTFS support aren´t that minor). |
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 29-Jul-2014 17:00:43
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OWB and NTFS (filesystem box) are ports from MorphOS and FrankenMUI was kind of forced by OWB.
None of this was real official OS4 stuff.
I hope next OS4 gets a real cleaned CD with all stuff for all systems on it. This update archive finding, installing hacking is so 90th.
Last edited by geit on 29-Jul-2014 at 05:04 PM.
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 29-Jul-2014 19:28:24
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I wonder why some MorphOS users are so upset by MUI4 for AmigaOS.
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I think that is exactly one of goals of Update7.
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AmiUpdate is used for all updates after Update6. (Still long way from Update1...)
Nice to see your interest in OS4. |
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 29-Jul-2014 19:47:20
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| come now guys one minute your moaning about the lack of updates and status reports and the next your moaning about just being reassured that work is on going and hopefully they will have something to show before the end of the year.
I agree its sometimes a little frustrating all this NDA stuff, where such a small community being a little bit more open and honest about the progress of certain task would be nice, something like Trevor's excellent A-eon blog or the JIT blog would be cool for OS4, and I know they make the odd blog post on Hyperion site and it is appreciated and I supposes you could argue do you want what little time developers have for Amiga project to be taken up writing up progress reports, but then a little list of here the thing we achieved last month, this is whats left to do, would be cool to have each month. _________________ AmigaNG, YouTube, LeaveReality Studio |
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 30-Jul-2014 10:01:28
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Yeah, I didn't get @geit either. Update archive finding, really? AmiUpdate handles it all. In fact, I just had 4 system updates (a few libraries) through AmiUpdate this morning. In my 11 months of experience, at least once every 2-3 weeks there's one or more updates coming in. _________________ Proud user of AmigaOS 4.1 on an AmigaONE 500. This is the first Amiga I've ever had so I don't know all the ins and outs of AmigaOS yet, so I'm sorry if I'm asking noob questions and stuff. |
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 30-Jul-2014 11:14:14
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AmiUpdate is great, regular updates every 2-3 weeks. And the system is getting rock solid on my Peg 2. Last edited by eder on 30-Jul-2014 at 11:16 AM.
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 30-Jul-2014 11:42:29
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OWB and NTFS (filesystem box) are ports from MorphOS
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Odyssey is indeed a Morphos port.
NTFS is not, it based on filesysbox port from sources provided by the original author (apologies I forget his name) and does not contain any code from the later Morphos fork (later in the contxet of the source starting point not the timing Os4 port). The author confirmed this the last time this FUD was spread. In addition filesysbox has been rewritten to use the vector port GUI, and so is *very* AmigaOS 4
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Toolkit developement is often application lead. Cool name by the way.
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I hope next OS4 gets a real cleaned CD with all stuff for all systems on it. This update archive finding, installing hacking is so 90th.
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I'd rather a seperate iso for each system, but a clean iso update would be cool when it arrives. In the mean time backing up your existing sys: on an ISO (and burning it!) is a good way to avoid progressive reinstalling.
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Re: Spotify for the Amiga is a go Posted on 30-Jul-2014 13:07:55
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broadblues wrote: @geit
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Odyssey is indeed a Morphos port.
NTFS is not, it based on filesysbox port from sources provided by the original author (apologies I forget his name) and does not contain any code from the later Morphos fork (later in the contxet of the source starting point not the timing Os4 port). The author confirmed this the last time this FUD was spread.
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What did he confirm? That Filesysbox (it's a name!) was created on MorphOS? That it adapts the Linux FUSE interface to Amiga OS standards?
BTW NTFS isn't ported at all, the only NTFS sources are those of Microsoft. While reverse engineered implementations like the FUSE variant we are talking about here _should_ be relatively stable nowadays I'd not recommend it for something remotely critical.
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Lol! You think a settings GUI that isn't part of the core functionality makes something "*very* AmigaOS 4"?!? I guess those trolls that call AOS4 style over substance are right after all. ;P
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