@mbrantley

Congrats on getting to buy an X1000.

That is very cool.

We are like twins... The Red One and soon X1000.

Tj

@TrebleSix

Ok, no worries. I see better where you are comng from, and I surely didn't mean to get my back up so.

For most people Amiga is not going to be the answer for every modern need. Few can truly get by without it being a second system -- and at the high end it's a costly luxury for a second system.

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We are like twins... The Red One and soon X1000.

Yep. These two I'll keep forever. Probably the Sam440ep-flex that I'm typing on right now will find a new owner at some point, though I'll be keeping the CatWeasel card that's in it for sure. I've had this flex-sized motherboard in four different cases now and just can't find something I like. From ACube I'd rather have either something smaller with onboard decent graphics or something bigger with loads of expansion. The X1000 is pretty well gonna scratch my big-box AmigaOS itch, however.

Then, I'll get the netbook whenever it comes out, so a trio of AOS4 machines seems to be my destiny. The Sam440 that's in the Relec Red One case is actually handy for traveling with in its carrying case, but there is also the necessity of carrying a keyboard and LCD monitor with it. Whole other subject, but I wonder ... is there a really small LCD monitor out there with VGA or DVI that could go on the road with The Red One?

TJ, at some point I want to help you get going with some of the old-school 68K software that still works well with OS4. Not being an Amigan from the old days, you are not so blessed (or cursed!) with nostalgia for this stuff I'm sure, but there are some gems that work well or can be coerced into working well thanks to dear ol' Petunia.

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@mbrantley

That would be fun.

Yes my memories go back to 1980 when I purchased my Atari 800 and used my 300baud modem to connect to BBS and used that for 10 years. Upgraded to Atari Mega 2ST in 1990 and used that for 5 to 7 years. Then moved on up/over to Mac.

So my memories are things like Ball Blazer, Alternate Reality, Zork, Balderdash, Shamus, Dungeon Master, Spectre GCR running OS 6 on my ST, etc....

I never played Amiga until 2010 so am new to it all.

Anything you want to share with me I would be grateful.

Tj

@sundown

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sundown wrote: @kas1e Quote: Sadly that non-nda x1000 users fear benchmarks. They anyway enjoy their x1000, so no point to fear if it will be slower in some parts. At least we will know the truth , and developers will know what areas can be optimised. 1. The x1000 with update 5 isn't ready for benchmarks 2. The developers don't read this forum to see them 3. Better to post benchmarks on a beta site that they do read 4. Benchmarks now will be slow & only harm the platform 5. Benchmark OS4.2 when its released with decent gfx & speed There are faster benchmarks with the beta OS that can't be posted. And yes, we are enjoying our X1000 experience...

And who cares?? People showed benchmarks of their AONE/SAM system before it was "ready" as well.
With this logic it could be years before anyone will share some benchmarks or videos of something cpu intensive like HD video playback.

@TrebleSix
Like others said.. OWB is good and follows the web standards. It is probably one of the better browsers on all platforms when it comes to actually following standards.

@Tomas

now i have all file on linux x86 to new benchmark
so Blender with unofficial blender test
Lam 3.98.4
Mplayer
Hardinfo bench

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mbrantley wrote: @amigasociety Probably the Sam440ep-flex that I'm typing on right now will find a new owner at some point,

Another thing I would like to see set up more formally, perhaps on the Hyperion Support Forums, is a place where people with multiple OS4.1 systems can sign up and describe their OS4.1 computer system that they are willing to put into the AmigaOS4.1 developer loaner program. This program would provide loaner OS4.1 computer systems to developers that want to get into writing and testing their software on a real OS4.1 computer system, but for what ever reason don't have and can't afford their own OS4.1 computer. The developer asking for the loaner OS4.1 computer would sign an agreement that he/she would return it after they purchased another OS4.1 computer for themselves, or were no longer interested in writing software for OS4.x. Also, the group of users administrating this loaner program could terminate this agreement and ask for the return of the loaner equipment, if in their opinion, after 12 to 18 months, the developer using the loaned OS4.1 computer has not produced any significant code to justify continued loaning of the donated OS4.1 computer to them.

I think this is a great idea, to set up a user controlled, OS4.1 computer loaner program, as I think the previous OS4 computer loaner program is no longer set up and operating, but I might be wrong. I do not want to have anything to do with organizing this effort, as I have too many other projects which I want to concentrate on, and would not be able to provide the time and effort needed to set something like this up and maintain it.

If there is another loaner program already set up, there is noting wrong with having two OS4.1 computer loaner programs set up for new OS4.1 developers, but a recent message from one of the OS4.x developers indicated that they did not have anymore OS4.1 compatible computers to loan out to anyone at this point in time and OS4.1 developers have better things to do than screen potential new programmers to see if they are qualified to receive a loaner computer. I hope that someone, or a small group of people will take this idea and run with it.

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TJ, at some point I want to help you get going with some of the old-school 68K software that still works well with OS4. Not being an Amigan from the old days, you are not so blessed (or cursed!) with nostalgia for this stuff I'm sure, but there are some gems that work well or can be coerced into working well thanks to dear ol' Petunia.

Mike, see the thread that I just started about this topic. I am counting on you to help me so I can create new documentation and perhaps guides, for each Amiga 680x0 program, utility, tool, and game that we can get running through "Petunia" on OS4.1, and without any help from E-UAE.

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why you lucky -*/***.,''



oh ..

but hey

i'm soon to be among the lucky ones 2
man i cant wait

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@amigasociety

oh and

Nice video BTW

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@Tomas

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And who cares??

Me, note the dancing banana. I could care less anymore what others think about my choice.

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People showed benchmarks of their AONE/SAM system before it was "ready" as well.

If ppl were comparing other OS4 system I wouldn't have any problems. Comparing the x1000 aganst non-os4 systems makes no sense to me, but the trolls love it. I'm not so stupid to think benchmarks will convince ppl to buy an X, you either want the fastest OS4 system or you don't.

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With this logic it could be years before anyone will share some benchmarks or videos of something cpu intensive like HD video playback.

Who cares??

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@sundown

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you either want the fastest OS4 system or you don't.

Exactly.

I have another reason to buy X1000: PA6T CPU. Call me elitist, but I like the idea of being sole owner of computer with such CPU in my country.

All depends on my financial situation of course.

@pavlor

In that case its really better to try to put off potential customers as much as possible. This way you will preserve your elitist position. And actually you might have worded the very standpoint of if not amiga then at least regular os4 user. ;)

@Tomas

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Tomas wrote: @TrebleSix Like others said.. OWB is good and follows the web standards. It is probably one of the better browsers on all platforms when it comes to actually following standards.

I'll make a point of have a look

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@sundown
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I'm not so stupid to think benchmarks will convince ppl to buy an X, you either want the fastest OS4 system or you don't.

And you are wrong. I want fastest os4 system. When i will know that x1000 is faster than mac not only in the memory speeds, but also on hdd transfers , booting and co, then i will at least found a logical reasson for myself why i can think about buing it. And i am sure there is some others who think like this.

And linux benchmakrs, will show us, if os4 can be optimized more or not (if linux will be faster in some tests , then its even good and not bad).

Anyway, i by some reassons sure on 99%, if all benchamrks will be faster and better, you all will be more than happy post it every single topic, and saying that only amiga make it possible :) Common ! Benchmark that damn linux ! :)

@amigadave

You promise to make benchmarks on linux, remember ?:) Don't allow them to convince you to follow to their way, show us the speed of linux on x1000 :)

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@kas1e

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You promise to make benchmarks on linux, remember

forget it, since people are told not to post linux benchmarks we can safely assume they are not much better that those already available. time to move on..

@wawa

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In that case its really better to try to put off potential customers as much as possible.

Good idea!

However, I don´t fear there are more people here in the Czech Republic, who are insane enough to buy such computer.