Very fast now, MacOS X Panther

1° test
http://youtu.be/SzWAvFZQ2ts

2° test:
http://youtu.be/Zz3zZB8psbg

3° test
http://youtu.be/22SSz0sNt4I

4° Test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSwOaM0tcuw

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Wow, didn't think it was still being developed.

What would be the chances of running MorphOS on it now?

@danwood

Pretty impressive. Wonder what the spec of the pc is in that vid??

@Seiya

Does that mean an new PC can emulate an X1000 now?

@Hypex

Very interesting, I wonder if we should port to Aros

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the x86 hardware is quit powerfull

i7 2600 :)

but i try with E8500

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Interesting! Still i7 2600 based computers costs a third of an X1000

Makes you think if it couldn't have been more viable to change CPU architecture somehow using PearPC for a start.

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How does it actually perform compared to a 2GHz G4 though?
It can't be actually a 2GHz speed because that'd require your x86 to be emulating on average 1 G4 instruction in 1.5 x86 instructions, which is simply not possible. Even if you have multiple cores running, you'll not get that kind of parallelisation. The fact that OS X thinks it's a 2GHz machine means nothing at all.

Can you show us a video of it running GIMP or something?

@Spirantho

"CPU JITC-X86: Sort of G4, including altivec. A very fast CPU for x86 systems that translates PowerPC instructions into x86 instructions on-demand. By caching these translations, a lot of speed is gained. Using this CPU, the client will run about 15 times slower than the host. Only works on x86 hosts."

Obviously we all have 30GHz x86 systems by now, therefore emulating 2GHz G4's isn't going to be very hard.

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@Seiya

What a waste, using that hardware to run Windows 7 64-bit.
My Windows 7 64 bit still pauses and heaves on a quad-core CPU.
It would be terribly annoying waiting for Windows to give some time back to the emulator while multi-tasking.
Oh well, no matter how fast your computer its, Microsoft will be sure to slow it down.

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@Seiya

That makes me wonder what the electricity consumption is on that system versus a G4?

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@Spirantho

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How does it actually perform compared to a 2GHz G4 though?

It's very simple.

It actually not perform as 2GHz G4.

"About this mac" on Mac OS X emulated on PearPC presents CPU frequency taken from the firmware.

Therefore, there is exactly 2Ghz and not, for example, 1.95 GHz.

I suggest to wait.

Just a bit of work with the pearpc sources and the AROS followers will show us G4 emulated with a frequency of 100 GHz.

Sure, Ghz showed could not be real.
it's fast operating system, but the programs could be very slow.
however in the old pearpc 0.1.2 jit x86 it's very slow

i wanted to find a linux ppc to test hardinfo..
PearPC is very difficult or impossibile to use internet and i don't know if recognize a cdrom to run some apps.
However the more important thing is PowerPC emulation.
Today with x86 cpu maybe we cannot run OSX at decent speed, but we have enough power to run OS4 or MOS via PearPC instead.

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Really? You wanna run OS4 on an emulated 2-300 MHz CPU?

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@olegil

if someone want to buy and use OS4 on netbook, i think it could be run better on PearPC

however i have made 2nd test with a dual core E8500.
PearPC run at the same speed so maybe on i7 is really a waste of time :)

http://youtu.be/Zz3zZB8psbg

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How do you know it runs at the same speed? Benchmarking a JIT translator is very tricky and should only be done with actual software tests, not a simple "this loop ran so many times it must be a 2GHz CPU".

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@olegil

He know it runs at the same speed, since in both cases pearpc firmware returns the same frequency to OS X.

@logicalheart

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Oh well, no matter how fast your computer its, Microsoft will be sure to slow it down.

"What Intel maketh, Windows taketh" to quote an old*) saying.

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*) 'Old' is a relative expression. In computerland in general it is about 5 - 8 years, whereas in Windowsland it has shrunk to just a couple of years, if even so many.

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An actual x86 has plenty of power to run fast an os4 emulated via pearpc, or a mos system. The reason it isn't possible is because it's a viable path, and in amiga is better to approach difficult ones(i.e expensive and difficult to obtain hardware vs commodity hardware, etc...).

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PearPC doesnt support open firmware so starting a MorphOS boot image isnt possible since it. only executes ELF-files like yaboot etc. Best option would be QEMU running OF or OpenBios I think.

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