Just bought this new SSD harddisk as i was curious on speeds in x1000. Its my first SSD disk. I configured it to look the same as the partitions on my 1TB sata harddisk.

As we know x1000 dont have Sata3 (6gbit/sec but Sata2 (3gbit/sec). The SSD is backwards compatible so no problems there.

What is good is SSD uses much less power. Speed is ofcourse the main thing here but my tests didnt show any win when comparing to my 1TB harddisk. I dont know why.

The IdeTool shows im runnng best/current DMA 70.

Booting my machine from pressing power to seeing workbench takes 52sec. With SSD it takes 47sec so the win was just 3 seconds but i believe this isnt the same every boot. Warmboot is the same 15-16seconds for both.

Copying a 175mb file to ram takes about 8seconds for both. The same for ram to harddisk.
Copying the same file to same dir takes 12sec on harddisk and 9sec on SSD.

I dont see any speedincrease while booting or copying files. Mui-OWB popups really fast when loading but that can be placebo effect :) or that the SSD havent been running much so no defragmentation.

I dont have much knowledge of SSD's so maybe someone can tell me if theres a way to get it faster or is there some limit somewhere with amigas using SSD etc. Anyway here is an review on the SSD.

adata s510 sata 3 120gb ssd review


EDIT: Did some more test (15 may)

Starting OWB first time HD vs SSD: 3sec / 2.2sec
The second time is same 1.5sec for both

Loading Amigaworld first time HD vs SSD: 8.3sec / 2.3sec
The second time is almost the same for both. 2-3sec.

Copying system partition to another partition, HD vs SSD: 6.5min / 3.15min
Delete the copied system partition, HD vs SSD: 6.15min / 6.08min

LHA Pack system drawer to ram / HD / SSD: 8sec (the same for all)
LHA Unpack Ram / HD / SSD: 3.4sec / 5.2sec / 3.2sec

Last edited by Kicko on 15-May-2012 at 08:00 PM.

@Kicko

Nowadays hard drives have cache memory so maybe there's not much difference with small files. Maybe bigger files makes some difference. Or bigger amount of small files. Also try copying files between two partitions far away from each other (on the same drive of course).

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@Kicko

The big difference is realworld speed. Access times are almost instant on SSD so anything that needs to seek around a hard drive will be faster on an SSD. After I installed an SSD on my SAM460, it is more responsive and runs a bit smoother. It was not like night and day compared to my 640GB 7200 RPM seagate, but the increase in "snappyness" was there and noticible.

Drewlio77

Last edited by Drewlio77 on 15-May-2012 at 12:24 AM.

@Drewlio77

is amiga os cable of running in raid ????..


there is allso the posabilaty to use a real ramdisk
http://www.memorydepot.com/IRAM-RAMDISK.htm

@Kicko

Quote:

I dont see any speedincrease while booting or copying files. Mui-OWB popups really fast when loading but that can be placebo effect :) or that the SSD havent been running much so no defragmentation.

You don't have to worry about de-fragmentation on an SSD due to it having such short seek times.

@retro

The iRAM is incredibly quick but you're limited to 4GB so it is works out very expensive.

@Kicko
My Sam Flex boots from pressing power to WorkBench in 35-40 seconds and warm reboots to WorkBench in 14 seconds. Since the X1000 has about twice the clock speed of my SAM, I'm guessing that disk speed is the most important factor in boot times. I too would have thought your SSD drive would make a bigger difference.

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@retro

I don't think so. Even if Raid was in Hardware the OS woud still need to support it.

Drewlio77

@Drewlio77
okey. hmm way dont amiga os 4.x not suport this. and the iram thing that one is a sata I model but i think thre is an sata II aswell that can take more memory too

People always says its night and day SSD compared to normal harddisks. Thats why i got one to try out. But sure its feels snappier loading accessing. Just thought i would at least have half boot time .

Last edited by Kicko on 15-May-2012 at 07:30 AM.

@Kicko

Quote:

Kicko wrote: People always says its night and day SSD compared to normal harddisks. Thats why i got one to try out. But sure its feels snappier loading accessing. Just thought i would at least have half boot time .

On my Playstation 3 the SSD is actually much slower on certain tasks than a normal one .

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remember OS4 is not windows there are no endless virtual mashing but I am surprised by this
I dont know enough about SSD and sata to get how it isnt faster tho.

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@Kicko

Check your disk speed to see what your performance is .

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=0&topic_id=28224&forum=14&post_id=663598&refresh=Go#663598

Last edited by Spectre660 on 15-May-2012 at 12:31 PM.

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@Kicko

Bought lately a SSD and have the same feeling.
The improvements were like yours, not so big.
Where i feel the difference a lot is by open
drawers in Workbench, the icons loads visible faster.
And it is silent :) and took not so much space in case.

Tears

Last edited by TearsOfMe on 15-May-2012 at 07:16 PM.
Last edited by TearsOfMe on 15-May-2012 at 05:17 PM.

The real benefit to an SSD isn't bandwidth, so no - copyng files won't yield much of an advantage.
The key is the access time. If you try copying two files at once, then you'll start seeing a difference.
Then try copying 10 files to RAM and you'll see the real difference.

You'll never get as much of an advantage under AmigaOS as you do under Windows because Windows does so much disk access for every little thing - but you'll still benefit and the whole system should feel snappier.

Certainly copying one file to test it is missing the whole point of the SSD.

I also like them because they're so quiet!

Try buying a short UDMA cable...

i think it is expectable, ssds are not even necessarily two times better than hds, especially in all fields. and the limits you are expecting are rather those of your hardware choice then your mass storage solution. i have an ssd in an a4k since years for some reason but except that it remains what it is.

@ll

Updated first post with more test but here it is:



Did some more test

Starting OWB first time HD vs SSD: 3sec / 2.2sec
The second time is same 1.5sec for both

Loading Amigaworld first time HD vs SSD: 8.3sec / 2.3sec
The second time is almost the same for both. 2-3sec.

Copying system partition to another partition, HD vs SSD: 6.5min / 3.15min
Delete the copied system partition, HD vs SSD: 6.15min / 6.08min

LHA Pack system drawer to ram / HD / SSD: 8sec (the same for all)
LHA Unpack Ram / HD / SSD: 3.4sec / 5.2sec / 3.2sec

@Lou

The cable is 0.5m so its short enough ;)

@Spectre660

I did the diskspeed test and posted the results

@All

I will keep the SSD in the X1000. Its silent, copies alot of files faster like my partition in example and it uses low power. Too bad not faster cold boot but i can live with that ;)

Last edited by Kicko on 15-May-2012 at 08:27 PM.
Last edited by Kicko on 15-May-2012 at 08:05 PM.

@Kicko

yeah the main advantage is silence, that was my reason to get it, though it can be annoing when testing when you dont hear disk access anymore. for a musician its a definite bonus. im not sure if ssd is actually less power consuming as hd, i heard different opinions but have not looked at that lately.

@wawa

Yea noise is disturbing while making music. For the less power the specs says this:
4.7W active; 0.6W Idle

so its not much lower then my 1TB fastata Harddrive. Wonder if i saw the low power specs on other SSD's or i just misread it. So lets forget the power efficient :)