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For everything before CUSA appearance check
https://sites.google.com/site/freeamiga/
just about Bill
https://sites.google.com/site/freeamiga/#TOC-Mr.-Bill-McEwen
And just add Baron style in last two years

Sadly, we didn`t started doing the same since first version of CUSA website and first "Amiga" announcements.

But you do agree material compiled is true.

As this website says

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Please note: facts were referenced wherever possible. Everything else is personal opinion only!


Wayback machine helps a bit, but just one year back

http://web.archive.org/web/20101223190106/http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_FutureModels.aspx

http://web.archive.org/web/20101223192330/http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_OS.aspx

http://web.archive.org/web/20101223180809/http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_News.aspx#

http://web.archive.org/web/20101223182037/http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Vision.aspx

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With your help in spreading the word, your evangelism, your suggestions and your support, we hope to take the fight back to Apple, and to take on the ubiquitous PC vendors of the world, like Dell. It is time for a revolution against the ordinary. Think different, be different. Don't follow the herd. Exclaim, I'm not a PC. I'm not a Mac. I'm a Commodore! I'm an AMIGA!

Whoever is a webmaster / PR is a "new Bill"

This is "Billish" and sadly "Amiga" Mini is a PC

Also, this is exactly what every Amiga user would like to believe and help,
IF it was about being Amiga and not a PC.

P.S.
What was the CUSA website adress before commodoreusa.net (original website?)

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@vox

I couldn't vote on this one as the option for "NO - As CUSA have absolutely nothing to do with the Amiga, which is a whole lot of even more nothing than even Amiga.inc ever managed"...

A.inc was all pie in the sky and daydreaming, CUSA have taken it all to an entirely new level where even the pie is nothing more than a stale PC and the daydreaming has turned to hallucinations and delusions of grandeur way above that of your typical furniture salesman who thinks he's the next Bill Gates or Steve Jobs let alone being the next Bill McEwan...

It's kinda like watching some wee guy sitting in a mental institution somewhere who dresses up as Nero or thinks he's Napoleon, best to just leave him to his fantasies and inject him with a dose of reality every now and then before he gets above his station and starts believing he is gawd next...

It's really quite harmless at the end of the day as only a nutcase would genuinely think Commodore and the Amiga was back under the guise of CUSA and you'll never convince nutters otherwise...

Best just to leave them in their little role playing fantasies and just poke fun at them from a distance with a big stick...

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A.inc was all pie in the sky and daydreaming, CUSA have taken it all to an entirely new level where even the pie is nothing more than a stale PC and the daydreaming has turned to hallucinations and delusions of grandeur way above that of your typical furniture salesman who thinks he's the next Bill Gates or Steve Jobs let alone being the next Bill McEwan...

Don`t forget that AmigaInc also had AmigaDE developer system and AmigaAnywhere for Linux and Windows

Yes, graunderism sometimes looks like even way beyond Bill, like in quoted beat the Apple and Dell thing .... just because they OEM assemble PC`s per orders.

Amiga Inc also didn`t have anything to do with OS 4.0 porting (documents and settlement kind of proved they didn`t pay real costs of development) its hardware and software, so in these "Amiga not Amiga related" terms, CUSA feels like a successor, and mentioned argument is that it is, in unknown percentage, sponsoring Amiga Inc.

Sadly, can`t add poll options anymore after its created.

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Cusa's not like AmigaInc!
Cusa led by experienced entrepreneurs who learned the lesson once.

AmigaInc was led by a friendly and too trusting person but in recent years also learned the lesson. One can not say if those close to the legality of write crap about others here on the forum. You will probably never learn a lesson ....

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@linnar

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Cusa's not like AmigaInc!

Its offshot (continuation) and parallel is very true in little work vs big announcements style and even more aggressive communication.

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Cusa led by experienced entrepreneurs who learned the lesson once.

Experienced in cable and satelitte equipement and furniture. Only IT literate person that works for C=USA seems to live in Australia.

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AmigaInc was led by a friendly and too trusting person but in recent years also learned the lesson.

What lessons have they learned?

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One can not say if those close to the legality of write crap about others here on the forum. You will probably never learn a lesson

Already have a Ph D, thanks

Just to remind you of some CUSA promises vapor:

a) New OS (COS is no new OS)
b) A1200 case copy and Amiga all in one (like C64x) computer
c) Amiga 1000-4000 desktop systems (see WayBack machine)
d) 20 000$ high end Amiga
e) Support for AROS
f) Other fantasy design presented as Future models


When I look at the C=USA offer VIC, C64x and Amiga series seems to have same specs just different case. And share the same software. So you resell generally almost one the same product

Since you do claim Amiga Inc and C=USA aren`t related, remember

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What isn`t a parallel is that each CUSA customer supports Amiga Inc directly through licencing scheme.

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@vox

You are trying to build a world of a single grain of gravel!
If you're looking you can find the same arguments against every company that exists.

Well, AmigaInc have learned their lesson. If they have not learned it, they had continued to promise things they could not fulfill. Their website still states on iContain but that's because the website no longer be updated. It is currently in a folder of another website that has the same webmaster who AmigaInc.

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@linnar

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Well, AmigaInc have learned their lesson. If they have not learned it, they had continued to promise things they could not fulfill. Their website still states on iContain but that's because the website no longer be updated. It is currently in a folder of another website that has the same webmaster who AmigaInc.

CommodoreOS falls to be their great continuation of amiga inc and financially supports its development. After all, there is a reason why C=USA forum is in Amiga Inc offshot section. iContain did faster sticking, too bad their Amigas did not make it with e.g. Mint 13. They were way better price/performance and also had boing ball logo and amiga name.

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