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Swoop 
Ripping to mp3
Posted on 23-May-2012 15:25:48
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i use ADRipper to rip audiobooks to mp3 format, for my mother-in-law.
She plays the on a "boombox", which is an fm radio and mp3 player for partially sighted people. It is quite a good device for what it is.

The problem is, the number of files I end up with.
Some books can be upto 12 cd's long and have 24 tracks per CD.
The boombox seems to have problems playing in sequence with such a large number of files.

I wondered if it was possible to rip a whole CD to just one mp3 file, rather than one per track?

Most audiobooks aren't on the cdda database, so I enter author and title manually, and let it rip in the background.

Another option would be to join the files, but would I need to rename them to .001, .002, .003 etc?

She has a Daisyplayer whic plays CD's, and I can burn the ripped audiobook to CD, and it plays fine on that, so it is something to do with the filing system on the boombox. The manufacturer said that If I can reduce the number of files they should play in order, but they have had problems with large audiobooks reported but have not solved the problem yet.

Any help, gratefully received.

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Re: Ripping to mp3
Posted on 23-May-2012 16:01:40
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@Swoop

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Another option would be to join the files, but would I need to rename them to .001, .002, .003 etc?


On OS4 the audio tracks appear as files on the audio CD. IIRC as Track01, Tracl 02. However they are AIFF, so would still needs a means of joining them together. Unless ADRipper or some other utility can join them before hand like some batch operation.

I'm SoX can but it's CLI.

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@Hypex

I wondered about CodeAudio, but it comes up with a wizard, and I can't work out if it will do what I want.

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Re: Ripping to mp3
Posted on 23-May-2012 22:33:58
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@Swoop

Did a simple test with join command. Tried two mp3 songs and amigaamp plays both after the joining. But the song name is offcourse wrong. Seems that join doesn't like names with spaces??

Join part1.mp3 part2.mp3 as test.mp3



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raumfahre 
Re: Ripping to mp3
Posted on 24-May-2012 21:29:36
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@Swoop
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I wondered if it was possible to rip a whole CD to just one mp3 file, rather than one per track?


You could do this with MakeCD;

Edit/Append complete CD...
Audio file format: AIFF
Append CD

Highlight the first track in the list.
Click Track Options in the main window.
Look for Total size at the bottom of the main window - this will be something like 76:27;33 (mins:secs;frames).
Now in the Track Options window, find Start block / Length:
The first box should be - 00:00 / 0
In the second box enter the Total size of the CD - 76:27;33 / 344058 (min / blocks).
Now when you press ENTER, the blocks will be updated.
Highlight the last track in the main window and click Remove until all tracks are removed and you're only left with the first track.
This one track will now be the entire length of the CD!
Click Play audio... to check that the track starts and ends ok.
Once you're happy Create image file...
Convert to mp3 using CodeAudio or similar.

Last edited by raumfahre on 24-May-2012 at 09:34 PM.

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salass00 
Re: Ripping to mp3
Posted on 25-May-2012 5:36:02
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@Swoop

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I wondered if it was possible to rip a whole CD to just one mp3 file, rather than one per track?


Don't know of any AmigaOS software that can do it but you can do it on PC with "Exact Audio Copy" at least, and it will also generate a .cue file with the track indexes for programs that support cue/mp3.

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Franko 
Re: Ripping to mp3
Posted on 25-May-2012 10:21:49
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@salass00

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salass00 wrote:

Don't know of any AmigaOS software that can do it .


Just like raumfahre said simply use MakeCD and you can RIP the entire CD as one audio file and then use whatever program you want to convert the AIFF to a single MP3...

That's assuming of course that MakeCD will run under OS4...

Download MakeCD For free...

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Deniil715 
Re: Ripping to mp3
Posted on 25-May-2012 10:29:49
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@Swoop

Use AmigaDOS C:Join or JoinSplitter which has a GUI to join the mp3s into one large file.

The MP3 format is designed to not have a file header which is why joining works just fine. Don't put ID3 tags on the files if you can avoid it. They will just be burried inside the large mp3 then.

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Re: Ripping to mp3
Posted on 25-May-2012 11:29:15
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@Deniil715

How about adding this option to CodeAudio?

I thought previously adripper, or mpegencgui, gave this option but I can't find it now.

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Swoop 
Re: Ripping to mp3
Posted on 27-May-2012 17:57:56
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@raumfahre

Quote:

raumfahre wrote:
@Swoop
Quote:
I wondered if it was possible to rip a whole CD to just one mp3 file, rather than one per track?


You could do this with MakeCD;

Edit/Append complete CD...
Audio file format: AIFF
Append CD

Highlight the first track in the list.
Click Track Options in the main window.
Look for Total size at the bottom of the main window - this will be something like 76:27;33 (mins:secs;frames).
Now in the Track Options window, find Start block / Length:
The first box should be - 00:00 / 0
In the second box enter the Total size of the CD - 76:27;33 / 344058 (min / blocks).
Now when you press ENTER, the blocks will be updated.
Highlight the last track in the main window and click Remove until all tracks are removed and you're only left with the first track.
This one track will now be the entire length of the CD!
Click Play audio... to check that the track starts and ends ok.
Once you're happy Create image file...
Convert to mp3 using CodeAudio or similar.

In the end I got that to work.
Picked the wrong second box, first time round, and had to add up the blocks manually the second time around, so I don't know what I did wrong there, but in the end I ended up with an 800mb .aiff file.
Mind you, it did take 1 hour 17min using CodeAudio to convert it to a 131mb .mp3 file.

Again, Thanks a lot.

Now I'll have to try getting my head around Joining audiobooks I have already ripped. have a

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Re: Ripping to mp3
Posted on 27-May-2012 18:38:30
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@Swoop

For most of the time you can just connect mp3 files and it will be playable.

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raumfahre 
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Posted on 29-May-2012 11:22:56
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@Swoop

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Picked the wrong second box, first time round, and had to add up the blocks manually the second time around, so I don't know what I did wrong there, but in the end I ended up with an 800mb .aiff file.


Reading back, perhaps my description wasn't as accurate as it could have been. You only need to enter the total time in the second box, (to match that given in the main window) and when you press ENTER, the blocks are updated automatically.

Glad you sussed it out and it worked for you though.

An hour & 17mins is a blumin long time to convert to mp3, pita

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Deniil715 
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Posted on 29-May-2012 12:41:32
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@Swoop

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How about adding this option to CodeAudio?

I thought previously adripper, or mpegencgui, gave this option but I can't find it now.


I think it is kind of a special feature, and for music the joints may not be perfect, that users better just use some manual joining method such as C:Join, JoinSplitter or Mencoder if they really want this. Mencoder is the only program that would do it properly. Possibly ffmpeg can also do it but I'm not sure.

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Swoop 
Re: Ripping to mp3
Posted on 29-May-2012 14:57:08
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@Deniil715

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I think it is kind of a special feature, and for music the joints may not be perfect, that users better just use some manual joining method such as C:Join, JoinSplitter or Mencoder

JoinSplitter works brilliantly at joining the files very quick and very convenient.
I like the option to name the output file what and where I like.

The reason I asked for this to be an option, was your comment about id3 tags being embedded within such a file. How do I see if any such tags exist and how do I remove them on an Amiga?

Certainly using MakeCd to read the whole disk as one track and output as an .aiff file was succesfull. No gaps, and the joins between tracks seem perfect.
Therefore (as a non-programmer) I thought it would be relatively easy to add this option to CodeAudio. By not closing the previous ripped .mp3 track and just continue appending the next one to it until all the tracks on the cd had been done. That way no tags for each track, and one .mp3 track for the whole cd. That way it eliminated the extra step of using makeCD.

Anyway, Thanks for the input, and the JoinSplitter program.

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Franko 
Re: Ripping to mp3
Posted on 29-May-2012 15:05:04
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@Swoop

Quote:

Swoop wrote:

The reason I asked for this to be an option, was your comment about id3 tags being embedded within such a file. How do I see if any such tags exist and how do I remove them on an Amiga?


If you simply load an MP3 into a hex file viewer/ editor, you'll find the id3 tags as follows...

id3 Tags Ver 1.0 to Ver 1.1 will be at the very end of the MP3 file...

id3 Tags Ver 2.x to Ver 3.x are at the beginning...

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Swoop 
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Posted on 29-May-2012 17:02:57
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@Franko

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If you simply load an MP3 into a hex file viewer/ editor, you'll find the id3 tags as follows...

id3 Tags Ver 1.0 to Ver 1.1 will be at the very end of the MP3 file...

id3 Tags Ver 2.x to Ver 3.x are at the beginning...

Ok, can you recommend such a viewer (Link possibly), and once I find them, how do I remove the tags before joining the files?

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Franko 
Re: Ripping to mp3
Posted on 29-May-2012 17:23:44
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@Swoop

Here's a few on Aminet though I can't say if they'll work in OS4...

http://aminet.net/search?query=hex+editor

I tend to use the built in hex viewer in DIrWork to view any file in hex and ZAP to edit them (but that's on OS3.x), I'm not sure about OS4.x...

Not sure about editing out the tags though (I've never had to do that)...

I wouldn't recommend it unless you know what to take out as it may "break" the MP3...

PS: If you ripped the AIFF files from CD and just used LAME to convert them to MP3 there won't be any id3 tags in them unless you specifically put them there...

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Posted on 29-May-2012 18:10:27
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@Franko

The ones I am joining I ripped with ADRipper , and I am not sure if that adds ID3 tags.
Most times I have to enter artist and title manually, which ADRipper uses to name the files, but I don't know if it also writes an id3 tag to each file.

Looks like I need a program to remove Id3 tags, both v1 and v2.

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Posted on 29-May-2012 18:25:33
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@Swoop

I've never used ADRipper so I can't say if it puts in ID3 tags automatically...

I've never had the need on the Amiga to remove ID3 Tags so I don't know of any util there is that can do that...

This is a long shot but if you've got a mac and iTunes (yeah I know their crap) but iTunes allows you to put in or edit any version of ID3 tags or even better in your case it can remove them for you...

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@Swoop

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The ones I am joining I ripped with ADRipper , and I am not sure if that adds ID3 tags.


It does (v1 or v2 depending on string lengths).

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