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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 12:48:50
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KimmoK wrote: Is there any new (in production) HW for MorphOS? I think no.
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There is no point in producing HW for 30-40 active MorphOS users. Reviving old hardware from the dump is better option here.
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| But is any company in the process of getting new PPC HW out for MOS? |
AmigaOneX1000 was possible candidate, to which the MOS programmers clearly said NO. No, there is no company in the process of getting new PPC HW out for MOS. All they money from MorphOS registrations go for supporting the software infrastructure, not the hardware.
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 13:40:40
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Too bad. Buying new could be simpler than trying to find some old that works.
(my MosMini is ok for now, but if MOS becomes my main system, I would want to have spare HW for it, some SAM460 caliber thing in cost reduced version ... Let's see, I hope that at the end of this year I have fully working Amigalike devices powered home office.) _________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // "priest" is just the RED goaul in me // The multicolor AmigaFUTURE IS NOW !! |
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 13:44:01
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| Buying new could be simpler than trying to find some old that works. |
I think we will have to wait until they port to x86/ARM
new PPC HW for MOS is just not viable enough _________________ Syllable OS - small, fast and funky
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 13:51:41
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There is no point in producing HW for 30-40 active MorphOS users.
Each of them holding 40 MorphOS licenses. 
And yes, if such a hardware would cost well over 2000 euro, there is no point. Last edited by g_kraszewski on 13-Jun-2012 at 01:52 PM.
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 14:08:15
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Kronos wrote: @Daedalus
There is no such thing as an 1.67GHz iBook !
iBooks max out at 1.33GHz (12") and 1.42GHz (14"). |
Indeed you're right, apologies. It's a 1.33GHz 14". Still, it's a lovely little machine that's in great shape for its age and would make for a lovely MOS portable._________________ http://www.robthenerd.com |
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 14:12:36
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Toaks wrote:
2011 55" LG Plasma screen here, looks ok too (no scratches, power outlet etc)... hmm wonder why they dumped that.. shame i can't carry that out without being spotted lol (it's stealing ... even if its dumped stuff)..
PS: i always get a bit "ugh" and feel i want to puke when i look in these dumps, dunno.. never had a thing for looking at broken stuff or for that matter watching people smash stuff. |
Me too... I'm regularly up at the recycling place dumping the carcasses of computers that are completely dead/useless, and it's really odd seeing stacks of PCs which are newer than my every day machines just dumped there. However, I've yet to see a single Mac there - they really didn't seem very popular in Ireland at all!_________________ http://www.robthenerd.com |
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 14:22:07
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Each of them holding 40 MorphOS licenses. 
And yes, if such a hardware would cost well over 2000 euro, there is no point. |
i would never be able to fill my house with 40 computers without my girlffriend finding out about it :-p
a machine (like x1k) for 2000 euro is no problem for me but since you dragged price into this, why ain't MOS on lets say... sam440 or 460 ? I know why but its a question everyone asks at meetings etc, common question but never really explained why.
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 14:24:10
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My Mos machine didn't came for the dump. Are you trying to stir the pot? _________________ Amiga 1200 desktop. Apollo 030/50 Mhz 8mb ram + ClassicWB + Wb 3.1 Amiga 500 1 mb ... C64 DTV + Keyboard mod. Waiting for a 1541 disk drive... Mac Mini G4 1GB Ram with the butterfly!! |
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 14:32:45
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I think we will have to wait until they port to x86/ARM |
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yep, Amiga + clone users = have no problems with waiting, 2 more weeks is by now the meaning of 2 more years if not more.
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 14:41:58
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 14:58:49
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You can stil get a new efika from http://www.directron.com/efika.html if you want new hardware ;) Last edited by Drako on 13-Jun-2012 at 03:08 PM.
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 15:09:51
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| There is no point in producing HW for 30-40 active MorphOS users. |
lol_________________ Mac Mini G4 1.5 Ghz & MorphOS 3.0 BlaBla Team Member -> http://blabla.ppa.pl |
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 16:13:58
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but never really explained why
MorphOS Team needs not to provide any explanation and is not obliged to port MorphOS to anything. My personal opinion is that possible userbase increase is not worth the effort, especially as MorphOS is not currently available on any e400 core derivative. It means that work needed may be much bigger compared to, let's say, port for iBook machines.
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 16:48:51
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It`s hard to imagine a single person out there who wants to try MOS but wouldn`t get an Apple to do it, it makes no sense at all. _________________ Fraggle
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 18:47:31
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It`s hard to imagine a single person out there who wants to try MOS but wouldn`t get an Apple to do it, it makes no sense at all.
You have to find an intersection of two sets. One set is people who are curious about MorphOS. The other set is people owning Samantha board. In my opinion amount of the intersection is very low.
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 18:51:15
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| In my opinion amount of the intersection is very low. |
But it nevertheless exists. I would even think that those additional MorphOS customers would be surprised (you know, why... ).
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Then you really should work-out your imagination.Last edited by cha05e90 on 13-Jun-2012 at 06:53 PM.
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 19:22:34
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| I think that a port to Sam or X1000 boards would be wasted time for MOS devs. It's basically going one step forward, than two steps backwards.
The serious amount of work needed for that 2 ports would be much better spent on getting MOS ported on x86 or ARM HW. Or indeed improving on MOS itself _________________ Syllable OS - small, fast and funky
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 19:28:34
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Ok, then I guess they think that things like Airport, R300 and making the OS work better are more important than porting to almost completely alien hardware with a small userbase, made smaller by the fact that an awful lot of them wouldn`t buy the damn OS even if it cured cancer. Especially in light of the fact that they are already supporting fast, good hardware that you stand a good chance of tripping over in the street.
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 20:53:07
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| fact that an awful lot of them wouldn`t buy the damn OS even if it cured cancer |
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Re: morphos 3.0 Posted on 13-Jun-2012 21:26:09
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I also hate how MOS user troll at OS4 threads.... Oh wait..... |
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