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Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
Posted on 12-Jun-2012 15:21:44
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Can anyone recommend an application for OS4 that will allow me to design web pages, My own webpage (www.amigaoneproductions.co.uk) was done with Frontpage on a PC, which of course I could still use, but I'd rather use my Amiga if possible.

Any suggestions ?

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
Posted on 12-Jun-2012 16:05:01
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From memory Rhino (friend and Total Amiga editor and website guru) used to use Gold Ed which is pretty much just a text editor with a few whistles and bells on!

Dont know of any specific web design tools on Amiga but there may be one lurking somewhere!

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
Posted on 12-Jun-2012 16:11:19
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i work with the web every day.. all you need is a text editor.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
Posted on 12-Jun-2012 16:28:49
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I have dabbled with Amaya on Windows and Linux. It is pretty good for editing and checking w3c compatibility up to html4.01. It is available for OS4.x though Amicygnix, if you don't mind the slow down of running x-windows.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
Posted on 12-Jun-2012 16:51:20
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@sicky

Thanks, I'm looking for something that lets me design in WYSIWYG as I'm crap at editing HTML files myself.

I have just been looking at MetalWeb4 but that crashes with DSI errors, In demo mode it does not let you save, and I am not going to register a program that crashes

I've also tried AWebEd but that refuses to start saying it cant open the audio device.

I've got Amicygnix installed, so I'll give Amaya a look at though

The search continues....

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
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Have you tried Concrete5 on top of AAMP.

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Last edited by Tomppeli on 13-Jun-2012 at 02:13 PM.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
Posted on 12-Jun-2012 18:11:00
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Hmm, i dont remember well, but can you not use pagestream
to transform the pages into html? Or was that something in
the beta version only?

I use mostly a texteditor and for the finish i use webplug and tidy.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
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Have you tried Concrete on top of AAMP.


I've tried to understand what you are getting at, AAMP seems to be a web server if I understood that correctly, but what is concrete ? googling it tells me about readymix with a free wheelbarrow

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Thanks, I'm looking for something that lets me design in WYSIWYG as I'm crap at editing HTML files myself.


There's no such thing as a real WYSIWYG editor. Not on Windows. Not on Linux. Not on Apple. Not on Amiga. It always is WYSIWYSG. The reason is simple, all browsers seem to implement the standards in different ways. So that's why I always use simple text-editor and some rubber-padding on the walls so that I won't get my head injured too much when a site turns out to be a 4 out 5 again...

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Posted on 12-Jun-2012 21:27:12
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There is a real WYSIWYG editor and is called Xara Designer Pro which I strongly suggest.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
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googling it tells me about readymix with a free wheelbarrow


It sort of worked for Bahnhof ISP's Pionen datacenter...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Pionen-sept-2008.jpg

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
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Maybe there is some online webeditor to be used with for example OWB ? Like Google docs but for webpages ? I myslef use normal texteditor. Notepad or what its called in os4. But sure i would need something like metalweb updated and working.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
Posted on 12-Jun-2012 22:48:26
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@OP

Concrete is a CMS like WordPress, Drupal and Joomla.

I do believe Concrete is the new-boy in town, WordPress is a great place to start your own site if you are new to CMSes. They even do Free hosting for WordPress blogs - you can muck about with WordPress on free space until you feel comfortable with it.

You can use the AAMP stack if you want for developing the site on and transfer it over to the site later. You find a template design you like online install it, and then add content, plug-ins etc. Little or no coding is required unless you wanna tweak the style of the template using CSS.

You will probably wanna install PhpMyAdmin into the AAMP stack as well in order to create the database to support the CMS.

If you want a bespoke template for WordPress, Drupal or Joomla I can develop and sell you one for low price.

If you are going to go the hand-coding route - as far as editors are concerned I recommend CodeBench for OS4 with AmiFTP for uploading. CodeBench in the near future will support ftp uploading and various syntax highlighting for HTML/CSS/etc...

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
Posted on 12-Jun-2012 23:20:49
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@Kicko

that was a good suggestion, a google search showed that there are several online editors.
like this one http://htmleditor.in/index.html

Also I noticed there are some web developer tools available as firefox addon. Timberwolf is supposed to support firefox addons, so that may work.

MetalWeb was mentioned by the OP, but I can confirm that the registered version is just as buggy as the demo. It was a pity that it never was developed into a stable state, because it was a really cool program at the time.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
Posted on 12-Jun-2012 23:49:51
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@Amiga_3k

There is a real WYSIWYG editor and is called Xara Designer Pro which I strongly suggest.


There's a bit of a problem with Xara Designer Pro

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
Posted on 13-Jun-2012 5:56:09
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Hmm... never heard of that one, I'll give it shot. I know it's Windows but to me that's not too much of a problem.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
Posted on 13-Jun-2012 6:30:04
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these days most providers have templates and website / blogs etc available in the online service site.

best of all, theyre pretty good to use even on AmigaOS if you have either OWB or Timberwolf. (if timberwolf then you can use plugins etc)

Couple examples over here: Fastweb , One.Com, broadpark etc.

look yours up :)

other than that... my oldschool design website is purely made in CygnusED and Notepad... and all gfx done in arteffect4...

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Re: Can anyone recommend a Web Design App
Posted on 13-Jun-2012 8:39:24
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Hmm, i dont remember well, but can you not use pagestream to transform the pages into html? Or was that something in the beta version only?

No, HTML export has never been implemented in PageStream. I use version 5 for Windows almost every day and it certainly doesn't have it.

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Posted on 13-Jun-2012 9:12:49
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I am sorry my comment was mostly directed to Amiga_3k, cause he claimed that no real WYSIWYG editor exists on any platform :)

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I am sure you won't regret it friend! There are many YT tutorials as well to get you started. Remember to download the extra content pack so as to have an extensive variety of mock up websites, widgets etc to get you started. Report us, when ready, the website you created :)

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Concrete5 is a free content management system. Enterprises uses it to make web sites for their customers, for example. There's free templates for it around net also. I've tested it installs on top of Amiga AAMP at least but I don't know how well it works.

(djrikki was faster)

Last edited by Tomppeli on 13-Jun-2012 at 02:19 PM.

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