Niw, that I hae my Internet working I'd like to start learning about AmigaOS4.1 and the things that I can do with my system (SAM460EX).

So where do I look to get my started?

Where can I find some nice apps to install? I'd ike to have a desktop publishing program, like PageStream or similar, some games, etc.

I'd also like to learn how to use some adf files that I have in some cf and sd cards. For instance I do have version 3.2 of PageStream (4 different adf images one for each disk, but 3 of the 4 images have .lha files). I haven't even tried installing PS in my MOS3.1 machine either, because I don't know the steps to follow in this case.

Well, in any case, I will appreciate a little push to get me started.

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@WeiXing3D

Take a look at os4 depot.net

What gfx card do you have ?

Progs:

Mplayer
Tunenet
Petes ftp

Games:
Battle For Wesnoth
Hurrican

@WeiXing3D

a few months ago we had another new-to-OS4 user ask the same questions. i responded in this thread, but i'll repeat it here, too:

there is a tremendous amount of software that works well on amiga NG machines, both classic software from the 68K days as well as more modern applications. obviously exploring os4depot and aminet should be your first stops, but here are some of the tools i use on my SAM on a regular basis:

* astronomy: i'm a bit of a 'backyard astronomer' as it were so my absolute favorite amiga application is easily the superb digital universe from bill eaves. it is commercially available, but very reasonably priced, and unlike astronomy programs on other platforms, this one gets you the information you need for observation quickly, easily, and without flim-flam. it is also hugely scriptable via REXX and is nice for demonstrations i sometimes do for neighborhood schoolchildren. a version of celestia, an open-source program from the GNU/linux world, is also available although requires miniGL -- so you may have issues running it on your X1000 before the release of OS4.2.

* audio: coupled with a nice audio card, you'd be surprised what you can do with a modern amiga. previously commercial, audio evolution -- a multi-track audio editing suite -- is now available for free. additionally you'll also want to check out HD-REC if you're into MIDI. you'll also want to try soundFX 4.3 on your system as well; although a classic application it works beautifully on my SAM. of course if you want to build up your MP3 collection, you'll want ADripper to rip your CDs, tunenet or amigaamp3 to play them, and amipodder if you're into podcasts. amuse is also good if you need a last.fm client. lastly you'll want to play MODs -- this is an amiga, after all -- so check out milkytracker, or hivelytracker, or schism, or ....

* emulation: there are emulators available for just about every classic computing or console platform you can imagine. among the ones i use are amiNES (for the original NES console), basilisk2 (for the classic Macintosh), DOSbox (for old DOS programs), E-UAE (for amiga games that 'pound' the custom chipset), hatari (for atari ST programs), KEGS (for apple IIgs emulation), VICE (for C64 and C128 games), and warpSNES (for the SNES). you'll also find emulators for spectrum systems, amstrads, the original playstation, neogeo arcade games, and many others.

* graphics: most of the graphics tools i use from the classic days. among them are imageFX, photogenics, and fxpaint -- which are available commercially -- and tvpaint, personal paint, and perfect paint -- which are freely available. probably the most used on my SAM is the photoshop-like arteffect from alinea, available for e15 including a printed manual. there's also terrific 3D applications including the modern blender, the still-commercially available aladdin 4D, and the freely available lightwave 3D. if you want to work with vector graphics, check out amifig or the classic drawstudio v2.0, although finding the latter isn't easy. there are many available graphics viewers out there for browsing your photo collection: amiphoto from alinea is my personal favorite, although warpview is excellent as well. some folks like loview.

* internet: this has been touched on by previous posters. among the tools to check out are, for IRC, amIRC for OS4 and wookiechat. for instant messaging you can use jabberwocky for google talk (and other services using a jabber backbone) and sabreMSN (for windows live messaging). folks have touched on browsers well enough: i find netsurf and MUIOWB to be my personal favorites. there is a native version of newscoaster for USENET newsgroups, a twitter client called amitwitter, and a telnet/SSH client called amtelnet (although for connecting to most systems using SSHv2, the openSSH client on os4depot is a better bet). remote access to your other systems can be done via either RDP or VNC with the remote desktop client and twinVNC respectively. there are several bittorrent clients -- such as ctorrent and transmission -- but i've never been successful with either. lastly you'll want to check out xnet-rss for RSS streams and subscriptions, and either YAM or simplemail for email.

* productivity: this is an area of relative weakness for our platform, most of the office tools for amiga NG very old indeed. that said there are some pearls, such as MUIbase as a database system, pagestream for page layout, and the amicygnix environment which brings tools like abiword and gnumeric to the amiga. on the classic side you might be interested in amigawriter from alinea (still sold today) or wordworth 7 for word processing. some folks swear by finalwriter 97, but that's rather tough to find a copy. spreadsheets are rather old: some still use turbocalc 5, although i much prefer staram plan which is available freely.

* video: there are two varients of mplayer, the older reaction-based version and the more recent MUI-based port from morphOS. i've had much better performance with the reaction version, and coupled with mplayer-GUI, i quite like it. i've also purchased DVplayer and recommend it wholeheartedly. if you need to convert between formats ffmpeg and its accompanying GUI utility is rather useful and full video editing is possible in blender.

this post is getting way too long, so i'll skip games and utilities for some other time. enjoy your new amiga NG!



-- eliyahu

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@WeiXing3D

Well, the CF and SD cards should just work with the appropriate USB adaptor, and ADFs can be mounted using diskimage.device - I can't remember if it's included in OS4 as a contribution, but it's on OS4Depot anyway. With that, most disk images (ADF, ISO etc.) can be mounted on Workbench just by double-clicking on them, and work as if they were real disks. LHA files aren't a problem, the built-in de-archiver can open them no problem.

As was already said, OS4Depot is a great place to start, and Aminet of course has a huge amount of stuff, though not all of the classic software will run. I would suggest having a look at Cinnamon Writer - a word processor which is being developed from scratch for OS4. Not really at DTP levels yet though. AmiCygnix is excellent if you want to run some Unix-type applications under OS4, though it doesn't really feel like OS4. It does give you access to things like GIMP, Abiword, Amaya etc.

Edit: Oops, beaten by a very comprehensive answer

Last edited by Daedalus on 25-Jul-2012 at 09:51 PM.

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@eder

This is a good question: What gfx card do I have ? I don't know the answer. Is there anyway to find out besides opening the case?

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@WeiXing3D

Download Ranger from OS4Depot.net, it show a lot of system information.

Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 25-Jul-2012 at 10:32 PM.

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I'm surprised that no-one has yet mentioned amigaos.net.

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@WeiXing3D

You have a Radeon 4650HD 1G DDR3 :)

Drewlio77

@WeiXing3D

Quote:

I'd also like to learn how to use some adf files that I have in some cf and sd cards. For instance I do have version 3.2 of PageStream (4 different adf images one for each disk, but 3 of the 4 images have .lha files). I haven't even tried installing PS in my MOS3.1 machine either, because I don't know the steps to follow in this case.

You can mount .adf files on Workbench via Diskimage device. That should allow you to install them just like you would under 3.1 etc. If you have any problems don't hesitate to ask.

@eder

I have a Radeon 4650HD 1G DDR3

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@WeiXing3D

ok, try out Flare from os4 depot. Great game

Im surprised noone has yet thanked @eliyahu for such a brilliant and complete post? :) This is going to help me out when I get round to firing up the Amiga again.

@rvo

I second that! I am a total OS4 novice. When my X1000 arrives, I will certainly be using a lot of his suggestions.

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@eliyahu

Thanks for your post.
(copypasted to my future readings)

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To this great list, i dare to add SketchBlock which is native, currently developed and supports some graphics tablets. you can find it here

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@Rob
Would you please tell me how to mount an adf file uisng Diskimage? I have a couple of adf files that I'd like to try.

Thanks.

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Rob wrote: @WeiXing3D Quote: I'd also like to learn how to use some adf files that I have in some cf and sd cards. For instance I do have version 3.2 of PageStream (4 different adf images one for each disk, but 3 of the 4 images have .lha files). I haven't even tried installing PS in my MOS3.1 machine either, because I don't know the steps to follow in this case. You can mount .adf files on Workbench via Diskimage device. That should allow you to install them just like you would under 3.1 etc. If you have any problems don't hesitate to ask.

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@WeiXing3D

I really recommend LoView, it's a picture viewer complete with thumbnail display, you can browse your pictures whilst listening to a soundtrack, also has basic edit functions. A bit like iPhoto for the Amiga

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@WeiXing3D

Assumming you have extracted and installed all the files from the DiskImage archive and rebooted at least once, if you use the workbench to browse to the drawer containing your ADF files you should see a custom ADF icon on files with the .adf extension.

Double-clicking the icon should then call MountDiskImage and mount it as if you had inserted a floppy in drive IDF0:

If it doesn't work, you could do the same manually using the DiskImageGUI program provided in the archive.
In that case,
1) make sure diskimage.device is in Devs: or Sys:Devs,
2) double-click the IDF0 icon which should be in Sys:DOSDriver or the DOSDriver drawer of the DiskImage archive,
3) launch DiskImageGUI (IDF0 and any other active virtual drive should appear in the list of devices)
4) double-click IDF0 and use the ASL requester to locate and select your ADF file. That should mount it an make it appear on the workbench, DirOpus etc.

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@AlexC

Thanks for explaining this. Very cool feature.