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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 6:46:47
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 6:47:22
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We had Roberto J. Dohner & Trevor in the Sunday chat tonight & cleared the air on a number of things. Most important to me was Roberto has no desire to change what we have now, but to help port linux apps to OS4. I for one will welcome his effort in that regard.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 7:16:00
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sundown wrote: @thread
We had Roberto J. Dohner & Trevor in the Sunday chat tonight & cleared the air on a number of things. Most important to me was Roberto has no desire to change what we have now, but to help port linux apps to OS4. I for one will welcome his effort in that regard.
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That's funny , that's what Roberto said in the thread earlier ...
Imagine the coincidence ... |
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 7:20:11
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You ever do anything other then troll? _________________ Hate tends to make you look stupid... |
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 7:24:09
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You ever do anything other then troll? |
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 8:21:20
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Roberto has no desire to change what we have now, but to help port linux apps to OS4 |
And what is it this Roberto guy and his users get's out of this ?? please enlighten me someone. He has a linux x86 distro, and suddenly he wants to help AmigaOS ???
What do his users think about this??....are we in for another angry mob run (like we need more of those) Last edited by Hondo on 24-Jun-2013 at 08:25 AM. Last edited by Hondo on 24-Jun-2013 at 08:21 AM.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 9:19:42
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Roberto has no desire to change what we have now, but to help port linux apps to OS4 |
And what is it this Roberto guy and his users get's out of this ?? please enlighten me someone. He has a linux x86 distro, and suddenly he wants to help AmigaOS ???
What do his users think about this??....are we in for another angry mob run (like we need more of those) |
He gets to sell Amiga computers to general public ... God knows few AmigaOS 4 users will buy one of these ... He will not hurt you in any way , even agrees to help you , "whenever possible"
Those who say Amiga brand isn't worth anything these days don't have to bother with it and Roberto takes all the risk for that ... It is a win-win situation as I see it.Maybe I'm blind or something ...
Only looser would be Amiga Inc. and god knows that they didn't do much for Amiga these 20 years have they ?
Now regarding the rest of the community , they can't loose from this too ... Amiga Inc. already made sure to take every single legal right and they don't give it to anyone.What is left to loose ?
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 9:30:45
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you are right and you are wrong. Your view is rational but parts of the community are not otherwise formulations like "opensource mafia" or "the only and true successor..." or dropping the platform at all if not a certain camp succeeds would not be possible. In a ideal (and commercial) world we would talk to each other and cooperate in best interest of all but that is not the case. So Hyperion wants to use "Amiga" for their products alone for sure, they have no interest to let the brand used by others. Otherwise they would not have prevented CUSA to install AROS (what they planned back in 2010). If not Hyperion can use the brand noone can. |
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 9:41:43
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its "lose", not "loose".. |
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 9:44:10
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attracting scavangers again. |
scavengers are intelligent and useful beings. when they smell rot they come and clean it up. |
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 10:14:12
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i just have started to watch the "prisoner # 6" series, didnt know that before. must say it reminds me of something ;) |
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 11:54:57
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... But if you get proper licence from Amiga.Inc, then you can count with my voice on this forum. ... Edit: In some cases, Settlement Agreement grands Hyperion responsibility to legally defend "Licenced Marks" (eg. Boing Ball), be careful, you may end in court with them. (See 13. Intellectual Property Enforcement)
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Isn't "OS4" Hyperions trade mark?_________________ Ciao
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 12:08:17
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scavengers are intelligent and useful beings. when they smell rot they come and clean it up. |
heh there's not much rot left to clean up. ;)_________________ Support AROS sponsor a developer.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 12:10:20
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Within the framework of the settlement agreement Hyperion is granted an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide right to AmigaOS 3.1 in order to use, develop, modify, commercialize, distribute and market AmigaOS 4.x (and subsequent versions of AmigaOS including without limitation AmigaOS 5) in any form, on any medium and for any current or future hardware platform under the exclusive trademark "AmigaOS" (Amiga operating system) and using other associated trademarks (such as the "BoingBall" logo). |
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 12:12:13
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No , I think , and it was a while , that actual trademark is AmigaOS4 or AmigaOS 4 ...
In reality , Hyperion gets most of it's rights from Amiga Inc. , rights that it didn't get it steals when needed ...
They didn't really do much in the last 2 years , A-Eon paid for most of the Amiga Os 4 development , and you paid a lot of it yourselves ...
When they start selling old free Amiga games you now with what kind of a company you're dealing with.Money from the sales of Amiga OS 4 still goes to Hyperion , but to be fair here , that's not such a big sum ...
Hyperion Entertainment was making money from porting games to PPC Macintosh and once Apple went x86 there was no market and therefore no money ... Last edited by blizz1220 on 24-Jun-2013 at 01:34 PM.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 12:20:46
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btw has anyone tested this os4 linux or amiga open linux or however it is called to confirm if it is any good?
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I don't have no Linux Pc and I doubt his Amiga Open Linux would run on any of my Amigas (A500, A1200, A4000PPC, AmigaForever).
How can he call it "OS4" - I thought "OS4" is Hyperions trademark? (If they sue him and win they could put this money into the development of "da real thing")
And what does "open" mean in this regard? I always thought Linux was OPEN source from the beginning... _________________ Ciao
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 12:42:20
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How can he call it "OS4" - I thought "OS4" is Hyperions trademark? |
You thought wrong. OS4 is to generic in the first place(A quick google search of OS4 brings up Linux OS4 distro, BB OS4, ios4 and Aos4). even AOS4, AmigaOS, AmigaOS4 isn't owned by Hyperion. It's licensed.
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(If they sue him and win they could put this money into the development of "da real thing") |
Yes because lawsuits always lead to more development. _________________ Support AROS sponsor a developer.
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 12:53:26
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... Yes because lawsuits always lead to more development.
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If you read my posting more carefully, you will possibly notice that I wrote they could use the money for the development - not the lawsuit.
The Lawsuit could be one method to get money. _________________ Ciao
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 12:54:06
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Re: OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community Posted on 24-Jun-2013 13:02:11
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the problem with lawsuits is that you never know who wins (except the attorneys)
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