As the title says:
I need to make a bootable CD or something for my X1000 since the original doesn't work due to old gfx driver. But what do I need to make it bootable? Is it enough to burn a normal ISO/Rockridge+Amiga extensions CD and put the same files on it as the orginal boot CD?

What about USB?
Can it boot all the way into WB, or only load the bootloader and/or kickstart?
What file system? FAT? FFS? Multiple partitions?
Can I boot from a memory card in a USB card reader?

Then there is the CompactFlash slot. It can load the bootloader.
Can it load the kickstart as well? What about WB? Do we have drivers now?
What file system(s) does it want?

Would be nice to know this since I don't have time for hours and hours of trial'n'error with different OF boot menus and burning 10 CDs that doesn't work etc....

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Solution: Amiga formatted memory card in a USB card reader can boot from CFE -> kickstart -> WB.

Last edited by Deniil715 on 24-Jul-2014 at 01:02 PM.

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@Deniil715

Use AmiDVD. You can build directly from the original CD adding the updated RadeonHD driver or even make a snapshot of you Workbench install. AmiDVD will let you select the boot options for the CD before burning.

@Deniil715

Have you checked the instructions here: http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/AmigaOne_X1000#Creating_a_new_boot_CD_step_by_step

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Thanks!

Will a DVD work as well, or does it have to be a CD?
With a DVD I don't have to strip my system to fit.

And then there was the question about USB/MMC and CF. Maybe someone else knows..?

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@Deniil715

Back when I had the XE I used a DVD to make a bootable snapshot of my SYS partition.

@Deniil715

I need to experient with this. If you format a USB stick as SFS you should be able to boot from it. With amigaboot loading from HD it should pick up on the USB.

Or, try formatting a stick as FFS, copyimng a Kickstart and bootloader, then try using the boot command on it.

AFAIK there are no OS4 CF drivers. But you should ba able to boot it off the CF card. It would need FFS format so CFE can load off it.

You can use a DVD/R/W or whatever takes your fancy. It's just a disc. Giant CD to the CD filesystem.

Last edited by Hypex on 16-Jul-2014 at 03:31 PM.

@Deniil715

first of all RTFM - AmigaONE-FirmwareBootingGuide-v5.1.pdf

CF for loading to WB would be very slow even if it was supported but as OS4 has no CF driver forget it, also forget about a card in a reader, even slower, although it should work. the best thing to do is just try it. use FFS2 rather than FAT.

TBH the best method is a bootable cd/dvd, quick and easy to make, no messing about in CFE to use it.

make sure you have the latest amidvd, tick on the fly, set source to sys:, give it a volume name, tick bootable amigaos4 (DO NOT TICK U-BOOT). switch to tab 2 and click burn, go and have a cuppa and biccie while it's burning the dvd.

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@Hypex

Well, to be useful it would have to load at least the kickstart as well, not just the amigaboot.of.

@Severin

How can anything possibly be slower than the PIO-0 harddisk mode when loading the kickstart?? Only a freaking diskette is slower than that!

I have RTFM (v5.1?? have no idea...) so I know how to boot a medium but it, or my memory, is unclear if it can load the kickstart and not only the amigaboot.of.

The whole point is that I don't have time, patience nor desire to trial'n'error this shit...

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make sure you have the latest amidvd, tick on the fly, set source to sys:, give it a volume name, tick bootable amigaos4 (DO NOT TICK U-BOOT). switch to tab 2 and click burn, go and have a cuppa and biccie while it's burning the dvd.

I don't know why, but this is the first time I made a boot DVD for the X1000.

Worked like a charm.

P.S. My SYS: was too large for a CD.

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@Deniil715

Amigaboot.of scans all FFS/SFS partition roots looking for a kickstart drawer.
it then lists all the found kicklayouts so you can chose which to boot. you need to disable amigaboot_quiet in CFE to see it.

Setenv -p amigaboot_quiet N

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How can anything possibly be slower than the PIO-0 harddisk mode when loading the kickstart?? Only a freaking diskette is slower than that!

Try a slow SDcard under USB 1.1...

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The whole point is that I don't have time, patience nor desire to trial'n'error this shit...

Stop pissing about and burn a dvd then...

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@Severin

is it so i can mirror copy my WB too a dvd and really boot from it like we used to do on 68k Amigas with the different Amiga Mags cd's and others

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@Severin

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Try a slow SDcard under USB 1.1...

Fortunately the X1000 has USB 2.0

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Stop pissing about and burn a dvd then...

Right!

@noXLar

Yes, unless you have a lot of assigns that points to other partitions, like I do. Or if you have used the volume name ("Workbench4.1:") instead of "SYS:" for all your paths everywhere. In that case it won't work well if you name the CD something else than your original SYS:.

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thanks, sounds like AmigaOS simplicity :)

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@Deniil715

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Well, to be useful it would have to load at least the kickstart

Yes, that is what I meant. The bootloader can load off anywhere. But it must find a Kickstart on the USB stick. Which will need to be in Amiga format. That easy enough to do from the USB commodity. Though I'm unsure if it creates an RDB for you. It should if it formats the whole drive.

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How can anything possibly be slower than the PIO-0 harddisk mode when loading the kickstart?

I can tell you. UBoot! On my A1 it is dog slow. So I set up my A1 to USB boot. Install RDB and SLB as bootblock. It took at least a minute to locate and load in 30K of the SLB! Not to mention the rest. Shocking! It made USB 1.0 look fast!

Last edited by Hypex on 18-Jul-2014 at 09:56 AM.

@noXLar

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noXLar wrote: @Severin is it so i can mirror copy my WB too a dvd and really boot from it like we used to do on 68k Amigas with the different Amiga Mags cd's and others

As long as amigaboot.of is in the root of sys: and you give the DVD the same name as SYS: then everything will be fine.

Watch out for linked files to other partitions as AmiDVD will follow the links and add the files to the DVD.

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Severin wrote: @Deniil715 first of all RTFM - AmigaONE-FirmwareBootingGuide-v5.1.pdf CF for loading to WB would be very slow even if it was supported but as OS4 has no CF driver forget it, also forget about a card in a reader, even slower, although it should work. the best thing to do is just try it. use FFS2 rather than FAT. TBH the best method is a bootable cd/dvd, quick and easy to make, no messing about in CFE to use it. make sure you have the latest amidvd, tick on the fly, set source to sys:, give it a volume name, tick bootable amigaos4 (DO NOT TICK U-BOOT). switch to tab 2 and click burn, go and have a cuppa and biccie while it's burning the dvd.

what happens if you forget to tick /on the fly'??

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@Severin

the amigaboot.of file will be automatically created with dvd burn software or is it always present in system disk?

as for the name. . always Workbench :)

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what happens if you forget to tick /on the fly'??

It will try and create an iso image in sys:utilities/amidvd by default, hope you've got a big sys: partition

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noXLar wrote: @Severin the amigaboot.of file will be automatically created with dvd burn software or is it always present in system disk? as for the name. . always Workbench :)

It will not be automatically created.

Where it is depends on how you have setup your X1000, for example mine has a tiny 1mb FFS2 partition with only amigaboot.of on it. This is so CFE can find it of FFS2 and I can then boot from a SFS partition.

Amigakti supply systems with an FFS2 SYS: with the amigaboot.of file in the root.

It's only 50k, keep a copy on SYS as well as a small boot partition if you have one.

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@Severin

Further to the above:

CFE can currently boot from the root of FFS, FAT and CD/DVD.

For a boot able CD you need to make sure that amigaboot.of is in the root. Simple enough.

I currently have amigaboot.of on a 1MB partition of a card in the CF slot. I formatted it using a CF-IDE adapter.