I am having som minor stability problems with my X1000 and I think it is related to my dual display setup. I have a RadeonHD 5450 and a Radeon 9250 PCI installed. Workbench on the RadeonHD and Dopus5.9 on the Radeon PCI.

The problems are that the OS sometimes hangs when I switch from one screen to another (I use the alt tab switcher utility). Sometimes when it goes to the screenblanker it freezes. And all in all I have more resets than I like.

Until know I thought that the stability problem where caused by Dopus but after a reinstall I am beginning to think it is related to my dual display setup. Maybe to a no so optimal Radeon PCI.

Here are my tooltypes (besides thees I have a PCIGraphics semilar to the RadeonPCI):



Maybe I am on wrong track but some of the things I wonder are:

Is a dual display setup with an Radeon PCI more unstable than a single GFX?

And it is more unstabke than for instance two PCI-E RadeonHDs?

Maybe it is my Radeon PCI that is not optimal. I have for instance problems getting 3D support on the Radeon HD in Debian SID.

Any advice woul be highly apreciated.

Last edited by JohnFante on 29-Jul-2014 at 06:09 PM.
Last edited by JohnFante on 29-Jul-2014 at 06:08 PM.
Last edited by JohnFante on 29-Jul-2014 at 06:07 PM.

@JohnFante

What is that alt tab switcher utility ?

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@JohnFante

I had no stability problems when I was running 2 cards.

I did write a couple of screen switching programs to make dual card navigation easier though... one cycles screens on the same monitor, the other switches to the other monitor. You just have to assign them to keys with FKey.

They're 68k, written in AmiBlitz but should be easy to rewrite in C if you can do it or find someone to do it.

PM me if you want the programs and source, 32 lines for swapmonitor and 41 for swapscreen.

Last edited by Severin on 29-Jul-2014 at 11:35 PM.

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@JohnFante

About 7 or 8 months ago I started having screen blanker lockup problems on my X1000 which has a Radeon 6570 running a single display. After disabling the screen blanker module the problem went away. The screen blanker may be causing your problem rather than having a dual display setup.

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@JohnFante

I also have some crashes when using dual monitors, I found that loading both monitor drivers before IPrefs causes trouble later on when trying to switch windows from one screen to the other and I can't move the WB screen to the second card, it systematically locks up.

If I leave the pcigraphics icon in /storage/monitors and launch it manually after booting it's a little bit more stable but it still locks up once in a while when opening screens on the second card.

I'm suspecting that some code in the OS and/or applications simply assumes that there's only one card and sets the screen pointer to the wrong one, leaving Intuition stuck. It could be something completely different but to me that seems like the most likely cause.

IMHO the issue isn't related to your particular hardware and settings, so there isn't much you can do but being patient as we try to narrow it down to a specific cause and fix it. However, if you are able to capture serial debug logs, it would help if you post them on the hyperion forum.

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@Tomppeli

It is this utility: http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=utility/misc/alt_tab_switcher.lha

@BCP

I have done the same now, lets hope it helps-

@AlexC

My stability problems are not that serious. I can change the Workbench to the Radeon - mostly - without any problems. But yes, lets keep our figers crossed for a quick release of 4.2 ....

Last edited by JohnFante on 30-Jul-2014 at 07:03 AM.
Last edited by JohnFante on 30-Jul-2014 at 07:03 AM.

@JohnFante

Why are both cards faking native modes?

I would switch that off and then work throughany combination of commodities and tools being run.

Maybe that will help?

@Belxjander

Ok. I have switched the FAKENATIVEMODES off on the RadeonHD. See if that makes a difference.

Here are my WBStartup. I am not really starting that many things ...



Here is my User-Startup:

---

;BEGIN MUI
If EXISTS SYS:MUI
C:Assign >NIL: MUI: SYS:MUI
C:Assign >NIL: ADD LIBS: MUI:Libs
C:Assign >NIL: ADD LOCALE: MUI:Locale
C:Assign >NIL: ADD HELP: MUI:Docs
EndIf
;END MUI

assign tbimages: SYS:Prefs/Presets/tbimages

;BEGIN Dopus5
Assign >NIL: Dopus5: SYS:Dopus5
;END Dopus5

;BEGIN AWEB_APL
assign AWEB_APL: "Workbench:Internet/AWebPPC"
;END AWEB_APL

;BEGIN Odyssey
assign RANDOM: "Workbench:Internet/Odyssey"
;END Odyssey

;BEGIN UADE
assign UADE: "Musik:UADE"
;END UADE

;BEGIN Qt-4.7
assign Qt: "Workbench:Qt-4.7"
path Qt:bin ADD
dir sobjs: >NIL:
assign >NIL: sobjs: Qt:lib ADD
;END Qt-4.7

--

No changes to the Startup-sequence.

Last edited by JohnFante on 30-Jul-2014 at 11:10 AM.
Last edited by JohnFante on 30-Jul-2014 at 10:54 AM.

@JohnFante

Quote:

JohnFante wrote: ;BEGIN Odyssey assign RANDOM: "Workbench:Internet/Odyssey" ;END Odyssey

?!?! what's this?
RANDOM: is a device which should be placed in devs:dosdrivers (check sys:storage/dosdrivers). using such an assign only creates problems.

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michael

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I made the assign because Odyssey was complaining about a missing assign.

Random was in the storage drawer. I moved it to the Devs/Dosdrivers and removed the assign. Now Odyssey loads fine without the assign

What should be in Devs/Dosdrivers? At the present I have the following:

Last edited by JohnFante on 30-Jul-2014 at 04:10 PM.

@JohnFante

Its up to you, but some thing needs to be there like “PIPE:” and guess “PAR:” and “SER:” can be used by few programs for printing etc,

the ICD0, …, IDF0, …, IFD3, IPC0 and so is for disk image mounter application.

Audio device allows you to copy a wav sample or some thing to it, and it will be played.

It looks fine keep it as it is, you wont save any time at boot by moving anything out this drawer.

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