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A new modified version of Sam460?
Posted on 7-Sep-2014 22:56:00
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https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/l/t1.0-9/10689555_699152706843835_5592059982576522959_n.jpg?oh=9e1e6a65c195c7f0cc4d01eeb5ce2b3c&oe=54962907

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
Posted on 7-Sep-2014 23:07:25
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It seems that Amiganews.it have more info on this

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
Posted on 8-Sep-2014 6:11:04
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I'm thinking this might be industry version of the Sam460, or a cut down version, looks like some of ports are missing on backside. Or is just serial port?

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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Don't see anything about it on the site you mentioned ?

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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http://amiga.ikirsector.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18423

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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There's no SM502 so no onboard audio or video. I can't see if the FPGA is still there but they've removed the I/O so I'd hazard a guess that it's absent too. Most of the circuitry and I/0 not present on this board is aimed at Industrial customers so I'd hazard a guess that this is more geared toward the home user.

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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Yep...the heatsink and fan look quite hefty too...overclocked CPU?

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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outstanding!! at a reduced price the SAM460 becomes a much better value proposition. i think this is wonderful and i wish acube the greatest success with this board.

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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I think it still uses the weird RAM on the previous Sam460 board. Anyway I doubt it will be REALLY that cheap, most probably just 50-100 Euro cheaper.

BTW, CR=Cost Reduced.

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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sound very interesting and as the Sam460's/ A1-500's are very reliable hardware for OS4.1 users this new 'cost reduced' MB I'm sure will be very welcome

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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You mean motherboard ram?

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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Exactly. If they wanted to do a cheap board why not have it use normal Memory you can pick up dirt cheap from any computer store?

Also I hope they get rid of all the on board stuff such as fpga, etc., to bring the price down. But I suspect the difference in this regard will be minimal. I hope to be proven otherwise.

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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That would require a re-design whereas this is the same board with some without the hardware that most user don't need or want.

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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Hmm - I don't know how various RAM types work so I cannot comment :) - All I know is that the RAM used by the Sam460 is quite expensive.

Anyway, anyone thinks that there will be a significant price drop? Or the difference will be "assimilated" by the fact (well theoretically) that the CPU is going to be faster?

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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IMO 'SODIMM DDR2/800Mhz 2GB or 1GB' (like used on laptops) it's not so weird. I know today there is DDR3, but those DDR2 modules should be now be quite cheap and no so difficult to find.

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I never saw any before, that is why. But if you say these are used in laptops... sort of makes sense then.

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Hmm - I don't know how various RAM types work so I cannot comment :) -


It's not to do with how they work but with the form factor. Fitting a socket for desktop memory would require moving components to make space for the longer socket. Subsequently the board would need to be re-routed for both the the memory and the components that had to be moved to accommodate it.
In effect it would be whole new board and if they're going to do a new design it makes sense to move on from the 460 series.

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Anyway, anyone thinks that there will be a significant price drop? Or the difference will be "assimilated" by the fact (well theoretically) that the CPU is going to be faster?


Probably not a massive drop, just the difference in the cost of the absent components and subsequent lower sales tax on on a lower priced board. The only way it would be significantly cheaper is if a customer was ordering tens of thousands of boards

Not sure if the if it will be faster since 1.1Ghz Sam460's are already overclocked by 10%, although that's not to say it can't reliably go higher.

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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@Rob

Thanks for your reply :) - well the more the price drops = the more sales you get. Well, not sure if it works like that, but if it is cheap enough, I'd buy one

Edit: I mentioned the faster CPU because in the photos it has a big heatsink/fan.

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Re: A new modified version of Sam460?
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The RAM costs less than $10 (U.S.) used. I know companies that dispose of thousands of these because they can't even sell them for $5 each.

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