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Macintosh Emulator on A1000 Posted on 18-Oct-2014 12:11:20
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| Hi All
Further to my preparation for my 30th anniversary video on A1000.
Preparation is going well and the joy I feel seeing my beloved A1000 being reborn with all new software installed again and remembering what is capable of still fills me with absolute pleasure.
Any way enough of that. I remember running Mac emulation on a Checkmate A1500 which was an A500 with loads of ram and sometimes an 030 and flicker fixer so memory may be an issue on 68k. However, Shapeshifter docs say only 68020 upwards. Has anybody got it running on standard 68k processor. My A1000 has 8mb of ram and 1gb drive so there is no problem with ram and it runs workbench 2.05 at the moment.
Maybe another emulator!
Ideas?
Thanks for reading.
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Re: Macintosh Emulator on A1000 Posted on 18-Oct-2014 13:29:17
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There is Basilisk II but I dont know if it runs on 68000. Very likely it will not. _________________ Amiga Developer Amiga 500, Efika, Mac Mini and PowerBook |
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Re: Macintosh Emulator on A1000 Posted on 18-Oct-2014 13:43:24
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for sure there was an 8086 hardware emulator for the a1000 i dont know if there was a mac... but check on aminet probably you will luky to find it.
i study an exam to university of turbo pascal and i was running all my exercise software on pctask at that time on my a4000 :p _________________ I love Amiga and new hope by AmigaNG A 500 + ; CDTV; CD32; PowerMac G5 Quad 8GB,SSD,SSHD,7800gtx,Radeon R5 230 2GB; MacBook Pro Retina I7 2.3ghz; #nomorea-eoninmyhome |
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Re: Macintosh Emulator on A1000 Posted on 18-Oct-2014 13:45:01
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There are old proprietary Mac 68k emulators, some even with hardware componens. |
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Re: Macintosh Emulator on A1000 Posted on 18-Oct-2014 14:15:14
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Re: Macintosh Emulator on A1000 Posted on 19-Oct-2014 4:25:11
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AMaxII? But original version came with hardware plug to insert external Macintosh floppy disk drive and read 800k Mac floppies. The pirated version cracked hardware and instead of using original formatted variable speed 400/800k Apple floppies it created a double Amiga+Macintosh 232KB (only) floppies using Amiga drives that could be used as a bridge to move files from a system to another... Not quite easily usable method but seems it worked...
Amiga and Mac Plus had same CPU 68000. I do not remember if Mac had 68000 clocked at 7 or 10 MHz, but AMax was faster than a real Mac thanks to Amiga chipset. That fact made Macholics real mad!
Fusion I and II?
Fusion I was software only emulator. Fusion II came with hardware.
Shapeshifter?
Last edited by Raffaele on 19-Oct-2014 at 07:47 AM. Last edited by Raffaele on 19-Oct-2014 at 04:28 AM.
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Re: Macintosh Emulator on A1000 Posted on 19-Oct-2014 9:59:36
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Re: Macintosh Emulator on A1000 Posted on 19-Oct-2014 13:38:14
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ShapeShifter would be best as it runs the OS on the CPU and not emulation, I suupose you could call it a translator. However, it needed a 68020+ as it used the VBR to do some tricks. I recall I had to put a patch in my startup for it to work.
If you need to run an emulator, on a 68000, it wouldn't be worth it and a bit redundant running a 68K emulator on a 68K processor. |
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Re: Macintosh Emulator on A1000 Posted on 19-Oct-2014 13:55:08
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You say that 020 is needed in order to run Shapeshifter due to some VBR tricks. So I'd be interested if anyone has tried running Shapeshifter with 68010 as it supports VBR? Might be interesting to find out.
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Re: Macintosh Emulator on A1000 Posted on 19-Oct-2014 14:30:30
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Don't quote me on it, but Im damn near positive I tried a mac emu on an a500 equipped with nothing more than 4meg ram (not even a harddrive). I can even remember a b&w mac screen with a pic/icon of a Mac in the middle with (I think) a question mark in the middle. I had no idea what I was doing at the time (was maybe 20yrs ago), but I guess it was something rom related, or the fact there was no os to load.
I could be remembering things incorrectly, but Im convinced enough to check it out. I'll let you know if I have any luck. |
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Re: Macintosh Emulator on A1000 Posted on 19-Oct-2014 15:48:25
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As Raffaele said, the first Amiga Mac emulations were A-Max (I - IV)
These were typically a hardware solution requiring the original ROMs from a Mac to be inserted into the board to emulate the machines at the time.
A-Max II was the first to support the more modern Mac OS System 6/7 which is what most users would be used to from playing around with ShapeShifter, Basilisk and Fusion. Last edited by _Steve_ on 19-Oct-2014 at 03:49 PM. Last edited by _Steve_ on 19-Oct-2014 at 03:48 PM.
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Re: Macintosh Emulator on A1000 Posted on 20-Oct-2014 14:15:04
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Depends on the OS and hardware it emulates. Which in this case is a Macintosh II. And that had an 020.
So looks like ShapeShifter is the wrong program to use here and something that targets a Macintosh classic instead based on a 68000 would be best. Emulating in the same way by running the code natively of course. |
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