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Ivan 
Looking to sell A1 XE800mhz
Posted on 21-Oct-2014 2:54:30
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I have an old A1 XE sitting here and getting dusty. I'm sorry to say I will never use it again and I can't bring myself to throw it away. I did love getting all the new updates and reflashing the bios every update. It was an earlybird system and I still have the original CD from hyperion here (somewhere). I simply haven't had time for it and I'd like to sell it to someone who will keep it alive.

There is a CD, DVD, 5.25 floppy, 2x 3.5 floppys and a lot of memories. There will be no HD inside (passwords and such) but the box runs fine. It has a SIL card and was 'fixed' by Adam Kowalczyk.

I'm a smoker and I know this bothers some people but the aluminium case is easily cleaned (I will before sending).

For the record, I'm selling it 'as is'. (it ran a couple months ago, its still good).

If anyone is interested please make an offer (in canadian funds). I'm sure we can make arrangements.

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UPDATE: The system needs some minor work and I would like to update UBOOT and OS4 at the very least. The A1 is no longer for sale at this time. Sorry.

Last edited by Ivan on 26-Oct-2014 at 11:02 PM.
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Re: Looking to sell A1 XE800mhz
Posted on 21-Oct-2014 8:31:30
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@Ivan

Best test it again to make sure it fires up still. When you say it was "fixed", was that just the USB or the DMA issue. The DMA fix introduces another problem although that only matters if you want to run a newer RadeonHD card in the system.

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Posted on 21-Oct-2014 12:59:38
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@Ivan

I didn't know the A1 was at the stage where people consider throwing them away. It must have been a while since you really used it. I haven't done a UBoot update in years and I'm sure the last one was in the early OS4.0 days.

So if you haven't had time for it, as a true Amigan, I expect you've had to give up computers all together?

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@Ivan

Put out a local ad first. I sold mine recently in Norway for about €400 without the case and harddisks/DVD, since the buyer didn't want the case.

Or put in a classified ad here. (Oops, I have forgotten to take mine down!)

Selling it way cheep (as opposed to throwing it away) is also a way to let someone else try AmigaOne and OS4 without cleaning out their bank account

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Re: Looking to sell A1 XE800mhz
Posted on 25-Oct-2014 0:40:35
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Well wouldn't you know it, the A1 won't come up. Power is on but no UBOOT screen.

I don't have time to open it up now but my first instinct is the battery died and wiped the BIOS (wouldn't something default still show up?).

Taking suggestions.

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@Ivan

change the battery - the bios is not wiped, the XE just needs a good battery to boot. If you havnt used it for a while, or changed the battery in forever this is the most likely culprit.

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Posted on 25-Oct-2014 14:17:49
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@Ivan

Wiped the BIOS. Well that's funny. I suppose it has that effect. But no the A1 doesn't usually brick so easily.

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@Ivan

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(wouldn't something default still show up?).


Not on AmigaONE-XE, the screen goes black if battery is dead.

(I guess that funny computer loves giving people a hart attack)

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@Hypex

Yes the BIOS is not wisped, the NVRAM and settings how ever is trashed, and has to be reset after a battery change.

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Posted on 25-Oct-2014 14:51:13
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@NutsAboutAmiga

I believe Ivan's machine was a machine that ACK worked on, much to his dismay.

It even have had the experimental uboot on it.

Source

If so, he needs to get a clean uboot.

HyperionMP quote (same thread):

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Adam should not have released this to the public using his position on the OS 4 beta-test where he obtained that material.


In other words, I wouldn't trust a machine if it had a failed experimental uboot. Maybe someone can help him with that?

@Ivan

If the above is no longer the case and you had since installed a valid uboot version, please make that clear.

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Posted on 25-Oct-2014 15:09:26
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@Ivan

I am interest to get the machine as is (not working).

Sending a PM, please check.

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@Morphix

Your a risk taker, some dead XE has dead CPU's.
I spent 7000 NOK to fix my CPU.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

If I take it and it would not work due to CPU.... Well on this worst case I will end with a spare backup mobo. We shall see.

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Posted on 26-Oct-2014 2:27:54
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Well, battery is in and U-BOOT (1.2.0) comes up. Now to get the HD on the SIL recognized but can't remember how. Then update the BIOS. I want to make sure everything is running properly.

I'm really surprised at the battery. It hasn't been off that long but I suppose they don't last forever.

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Posted on 26-Oct-2014 5:44:04
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Hey thanks for the help so far guys. I'm worried now i'll get it back up and running and not want to sell. :D

I need a UBOOT guide or refrence. The HD still isn't showing up.

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Posted on 26-Oct-2014 5:56:09
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@Ivan

Unless you need the money I wouldn't sell it. The 800MHz XE is a piece of history, comparable to an A1000. It and the SE were the first computers made specifically to run AmigaOS4 (they also ran Linux, but that's hardly special - Linux gets ported to everything).

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@Ivan

The latest official UBoot version is 1.1.1 while you're running 1.2.0 so you certainly don't need a BIOS update!

You could try going into the UBoot menu and using "Default/Fix settings" option. Worked for me one time. If it fails select to reset to defaults.

Otherwise, you will need to change the boot device to your IDE controller. And then it should work. Check here for a guide:

http://www.intuitionbase.com/static.php?section=uboot

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Posted on 26-Oct-2014 13:48:14
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@CodeSmith

Quote:
Unless you need the money I wouldn't sell it. The 800MHz XE is a piece of history, comparable to an A1000. It and the SE were the first computers made specifically to run AmigaOS4 (they also ran Linux, but that's hardly special - Linux gets ported to everything).


I have an XE which is also in barely-working order at the moment, comparing them to an A1000 is a bit insulting to the 1000 imho. They weren't really anything special or custom, they were just rebadged MAI Teron CX boards and mostly very buggy.

Mine is just taking up space in my office at the moment and hasn't been powered on for around a year, I may get around to trying again to get it running semi-stable and then sell it soon but while I've had some fun with it for sure, it's been much more of a hassle and headache over the years to keep running reliably due all the countless bugs and faults with the board. It's not a piece of history comparable to the A1000 at all in my mind. The first custom OS4 machine would be the X1000 but sadly that's really out of my price range.

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Technically, the XE may have not been very special, but I think CodeSmith is right. With all the announcements we had over the years of new Amiga hardware, the AmigaOne was the only one that made it. Sure, by this time it was too late for even real Amiga RTG hardware and 16-bit sound to match, but the AmigaOne was first and closest to an NG machine we had that actually got released.

I suppose the X1000 is custom made to an extent. But I think the AmigaOne had a greater impact for the time and was easier to use! Owning an X1000, the firmware is hard to use and lacks a GUI, it's slow to bootup, the OF booter used for a SLB doesn't support Linux, the Xena makes no difference to me, the hardware lacked OS4 drivers for years and even now not all OS4 components work. So if the X1000 was custom made for us then it's poorly done!

It may not have the A1 bugs, but it does have bugs of its own. I think the XE had a better impact. After I set it up I was still excited by it. After getting my X1000 setup the excitement left. Perhaps it was helped by the fact that the A1 could be compared to a new Mac which was slightly cheaper. There was nothing to compare the X1000 to the same way and by comparison to the A1 it cost a lot more. And just didn't seem to deliver as the A1 did. The CPU speed should be higher after ten years. When the latest in PCs was 1.8 Ghz that speed was exciting, but on the X1000 it just seemed dull.

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Posted on 26-Oct-2014 17:16:24
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@Hypex

Let me make a comment because your not making sense.

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I suppose the X1000 is custom made to an extent. But I think the XE had a greater impact for the time and was easier to use!


I think its just you who have gotten more used to it.

Quote:
Owning an X1000, the firmware is hard to use and lacks a GUI,


Nope its easy to use, you just have not tried to learn it.

Quote:
it's slow to bootup, the OF booter used for a SLB doesn't support Linux,


OF boot loader is to load AmigaOS, thats what its for.
You don't need it to boot Linux, CFE has its own boot menu, so this is simple.

I have only one complaint about the OF boot loader, and that it does not support kick-layout options, like UBOOT SBL2 does, even so the beta testers have been telling me it does, so most likely a easter egg I don't know about.

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the Xena makes no difference to me,


If it makes seance to you or not, make no difference, the hardware works, and good quality.

Quote:
the hardware lacked OS4 drivers for years and even now not all OS4 components work.


It lacks one driver for the onboard ethernet, and I don't know if there was ever promised any drivers for the CF card.

Quote:
So if the X1000 was custom made for us then it's poorly done!


The hardware works perfect in Linux, there is nothing wrong with the hardware.
Ethernet and CF card is working there.

AmigaONE-XE/SE this are crap, but I agree they have historic value, and they are good example on how to not do something.

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XE could be compared to a new Mac which was slightly cheaper.


change A1 with XE, as A1 can be any computer including X1000, I know you mean XE when you say A1.

XE came out in 2004, with 800Mhz G4,
(yes I know some came with 933 Mhz G4, but if you clocked up, the CPU fan was not able to cool the CPU down so it burnt up.)

the macs at the time was clocked at:

PowerBook G4 @ 1.67Ghz.
Ibook G4 @ 1.42Ghz.
MacMini G4 @ 1.24Ghz.
PowerMac G5 @ 1.6Ghz.

I can agree it was not half bad compare to what existed at the time, you needed to compare it to Mac computers from 2002, to find the same CPU clock frequency.

So the Mac's was slightly cheaper and slightly faster.

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