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Hyperionmp 
Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 14:59:44
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@number6

Actually Timothy is a director of the company, not its president. There is no president nor a CEO.

The fact is also that my contact-details, those of Timothy and others closely affiliated with Hyperion were and are available since 1999. Even a PM on this very site would have sufficed to contact us to offer assistance. Which we did get from other parties in the form of loans.

Anybody could have figured out that the legal fees would be monstrous or at the very least burdening the development resources of AmigaOS 4.x. and could have stepped up to the plate. We were not the only stakeholders in this litigation.

A public appeal for money would have been a clear signal to the 3 law-firms representing Amiga Inc./Amino Inc./Itec LLC (2 US law-firms including Reed Smith one of THE largest law-firms in the US if not the world, 1 very large Belgian firm) that by piling even more litigation on would have brought Hyperion to the brink of bankruptcy and success for them by default.

At one point, Itec LLC even sent us a check for 25000 USD to buy the rights to AmigaOS 4. Obviously, we returned the check with a note "thank you but no thank you".

All of this is documented. This is not a fabrication.

Honestly, how stupid do you think we all are?

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Hyperionmp 
Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:04:08
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@Bondy

Somebody questioned whether A-EON would acquire Hyperion next and then reserve AmigaOS for their hardware. See this very thread.

Selective reading on your part or very short attention span on your part, your choice but a clear fact.

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Hyperionmp 
Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:05:42
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@Senex

No, it will not require ownership of a previous copy of AmigaOS 4.1.

A PR is due to go up soon.

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NutsAboutAmiga 
Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:11:14
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@Hyperionmp

Was there not statement that Timothy quieted as was not really involved with Hyperion to begin with?

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Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:11:44
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@Hyperionmp

A full working AmigaOS 4.1 Final with all drivers for 30 EUR without needing a previous 4.1 license?

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Hyperionmp 
Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:12:58
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@Bondy

"Even Ben has conceded in his reply to a1200 they don't have a viable strategy."

I made no such concession whatsoever. There is indeed a strategy albeit that execution has been severely hampered by the costs and loss of time inflicted by the Amiga trial.

Your views on AmigaOS development are deeply flawed and biased and you are not hampered by a shred of intellect(ual honesty).

This is my last reply to you. Should have listed to my own advice to simply ignore you.

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Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:13:59
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@Hyperionmp

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A public appeal for money would have been a clear signal to the 3 law-firms representing Amiga Inc./Amino Inc./Itec LLC (2 US law-firms including Reed Smith one of THE largest law-firms in the US if not the world, 1 very large Belgian firm) that by piling even more litigation on would have brought Hyperion to the brink of bankruptcy and success for them by default.


Interesting, but somewhat different opinion than the majority opinion that the death of Pentti Kouri and funding for said suits was the key issue forcing settlement.

Regardless, we're off thread topic.

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noXLar 
Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:14:45
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@Xmas87

i agree, i hope those users who try to stop any Aos4 progress and only wish
every thing went to dust and die out would stop this attaching. if those negative
people want another amigaos future or don't want any amigaos future, leave the
scene and let those people that appreciate the things being done by hyperion
and a-eon in peace

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Hyperionmp 
Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:15:25
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@Aslak3

What is true Amiga in your eyes? A computer produced by a bankrupt company like Commodore? Or one produced by the "scam artists" from Amiga Inc. (which actually promised to produce a custom x86 hardware platform)?

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Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:15:55
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Aslak3 wrote:
@Bondy

Quote:

Bondy wrote:
@OlafS25

Too late to do anything but die out slowly and painfully...


The truly awful and sad part is I daren't mention, to my programmer type friends and colleagues, that I used to own, use, and love the amiga platform for fear they know about the current state of the "new amiga but not amiga" platform. I'm also an old time user of the ZX Spectrum, and there you can reminisce with folks about the good old 8 bit days. But do that with amiga? Sadly not.

A good death is now impossible. And that is tragic.


lots of drama today eh I have many friends in the computer field and damn it they are all in awe that we amigans are still here & proud of it! If you have a problem with AmigaOS then use & support AROS on standard PC equipment or if you're a Mac head then get some old hardware picking up dust and use MorphOS, heck enjoy the constant stuff going on with our classics!

Perhaps you just need a walk in the park, maybe personal issues got you down BUT why such negative comments at people who are trying to do things for whichever Amiga system they enjoy using? pick one and support it or pick all & support them.

heck if Amiga was dead then why are we all here talking about new developements in all camps..sheesh

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Hyperionmp 
Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:18:06
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@OlafS25

Note that this will be my last post in this thread. If you want to reach me, you can do so through this forum or directly at Hyperion.

You can waste only so much time, even on a rainy Sunday afternoon.

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Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:19:54
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@Hyperionmp

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Anybody who believes that Hyperion was ever under ANY delusions to be a full alternative for Windows, MacOS X or even Linux as a desktop OS, is severely mistaken. We never expected to gain a significant market share at the expense of this established operating systems.

Let's be real, you have to be a complete idiot to believe you can match the development resources behind these platforms.


That might put you behind the 6502 platform because they are still selling millions of chips a year which means that if you aren't selling a computer then you left the market.

The reality is that you could sell a platform because people actually enjoy Retro computers but they aren't going to be gouged and the only thing you can do to fuel it is to make a Retro computer more Do It Yourself.

A lot of the D.I.Y. (Do it yourself) crowd is funding companies that are million dollar babies.

So unless you have computers for the masses and not the classes, you are tying up money in web space for which there is no viable product.

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djrikki 
Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:19:55
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@HyperionMP Thank you for coming online and answering a few questions around here. I see the usual Trolls are out en-force as per usual.
I however will be continuing to show my support by keeping up my social media activities on both FB and Twitter.
Sure it's sad AmigaOS is continuing to fall behind, but anyone with an ounce of business sense can appreciate why.

I'd like to re-iterate my thoughts from a few months ago on Amigans.net - AmigaOS (and third party developers) needs to embrace Kickstarter - learn from Cinemaware and the guy doing that feature-length Amiga documentary.

Last edited by djrikki on 26-Oct-2014 at 03:21 PM.
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OlafS25 
Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:24:28
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@Hyperionmp

Sorry a simple "Yes" or "No" would have been sufficient

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noXLar 
Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:29:35
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@klx300r

+1

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Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:29:48
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@djrikki

I think you need to be good at selling if your going to do "kickstarters". Its not for everyone.

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Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:30:54
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@klx300r

+1

(Anyway be nice if there was like icon here, maybe A-EON can do some thing about that.)

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Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:41:36
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@Hyperionmp

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Honestly, how stupid do you think we all are?


Right On! It's obvious that NONE of these argumentative antagonists have ever owned their own business! Specifically a business in the tech industry! I have! It's daunting, to say the least, when the targets move at the speed of light!

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Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:43:17
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@Bondy

I don't see why, if it's a hobbyists platform, it isn't open source. Why if Trevor and co want to play with a modernized Amiga just say "here's the 3.1 source code, lets go play".

Surely no one is getting rich from the few hundred boards sold and the sprinkling of OS4 users. Doesn't make sense. Why battle with Amiga Inc for some age old code that has no practical or commercial benefit beyond a few die hard hobbyist folks who are prepared pay over the odds to keep this fantasy alive.

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Re: amigaworld.net now owned by A-EON
Posted on 26-Oct-2014 15:49:10
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@Hyperionmp

you need to go back through the thread old son. See your reply to A1200 when he said he would not invest in a company with no credible plans you told him you'd no interest in his opinions then. You had a chance to refute him there.


I'm all to aware of the failings of the amigaos4 development effort from the inside and as an app developer and as a beta tester and as a user. so you can dry up with the ad hominen.

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