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Do not buy from AmigaKit {RESOLVED] Posted on 27-Oct-2014 3:08:53
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| I told in private message to moderator KJMann that I dont want to buy from AmigaKit anymore and do not recommend that web store to anyone else. This is what I got as response:
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You have been banned for the following reason: Threated to post bad things about the forum owners
Date the ban will be lifted: Never |
Last edited by _Steve_ on 03-Nov-2014 at 01:23 AM.
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 3:14:36
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| @itix
And what is your reason?
That response could be a reason, but then there is little time paradoxon :) Last edited by Lazi on 27-Oct-2014 at 03:17 AM.
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 3:19:19
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| @itix
Not trying to judge or say what's right or wrong but what was the outcome you were hoping for? |
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 3:25:18
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I expected nothing would come out. I made clear that I am not going to recommend AmigaKit anyone because of their moderation polciy, and I did not tell that to anyone in public on their web site. I only said it in private to kjmann and at Moo.
If this is reason to ban me then I have even less reasons to recommend AmigaKit.
My expectation has always been that if I dont cause trouble on their forums I dont get trouble either. If I take some moderation policy discussions in private it should not hurt either. But now because I expressed I dont recommend anyone to buy from there I get banned from Amiga.org.
And soon from AWN, too, that is for sure. _________________ Amiga Developer Amiga 500, Efika, Mac Mini and PowerBook |
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 3:26:39
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| @itix
thanks for bringing this up. i'm going to look into this with the other amiga.org mods and find out what happened. i'll go ahead and talk with kjmann and take it from there. as soon as i know the story, i'll PM you. i'll be traveling tomorrow back from amiwest to home, so give me 24 hours or so to clarify things.
-- eliyahu
Last edited by eliyahu on 27-Oct-2014 at 03:39 AM. Last edited by eliyahu on 27-Oct-2014 at 03:32 AM.
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 3:34:48
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 3:58:45
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I did, and I said in private that I dont recommend anyone to buy from AmigaKit, and got banned. I dont know what was written back to me because I cant access PM there anymore.
And I am not asking to lift my ban. I never did. And I dont.
Last edited by itix on 27-Oct-2014 at 04:00 AM.
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 4:02:06
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| If you don't have the time to resolve a small problem, you don't deserve the business and you have lost money.
Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 4:10:32
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Why send that to a mod in PM and why don't you want people to buy from Amigakit. |
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 5:12:37
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| I have purchased from amigakit before and will again. I have found matt's service to be in deed - going the extra mile. I would be very interested in the outcome of this, never seeing itix as one typical of moo. Though any association with moo has the potential to be tarred with the same brush. Weve heard many stories about mongrels on a.org, I'd be interested to hear the full story if theres more to it than whats been discussed here.Especially if sleep deprivation is involved. _________________ Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 5:20:32
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It was my reply to a warning I got from moderator. As for other question, maybe just because I think moderators are not good. Just like if I go to local Wal-mart and the clerk is cranky I can tell people to not go there anymore.
I just would not expect to get banned from local Wal-mart because of that :) even if I almost ever buy very little or nothing. _________________ Amiga Developer Amiga 500, Efika, Mac Mini and PowerBook |
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 5:24:14
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 5:32:19
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| And Atheist, please stop spamming my PM. _________________ Amiga Developer Amiga 500, Efika, Mac Mini and PowerBook |
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 5:33:56
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Does aorg's t&c allow discussing a warning via pm? Without reprimand? Did you swear at him/he at you? Last edited by Barana on 27-Oct-2014 at 05:48 AM.
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 6:10:37
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| Hello. I'm Kjmann. the Mod in question here.
For the record. Itix was warned to stop reporting moderators and administrators Edited or deleted posts as TOS violations. He has sent several in the past few weeks. This Alone I considered to be a form of trolling.
his response (at least what I could ascertain) was to threaten to post his derogatory opinions about amiga kit in the public forums at A.org. It is possible that I misconstrued his intentions due to the fact that I think English may be his second language.
I personally would consider this a threat of bad behavior out of spite for the action taken against him (Which was a 10 day infraction warning).
after discussing it with eliyahu, I'm going to lift the ban because he has not actually taken the action he threatened to take yet. I will admit that my action was too harsh and it was a mistake on my part to ban him as of yet untill he actually does what he has threatened to do.
Although I still feel a threat is as bad as an action, eliyahu is right that people must remain innocent until proven guilty. If he does post such things then I will take action if necessary. in the meantime, his ban has been lifted. My apologies to the community for jumping the gun.
Thank you for listening. -Kjmann
Last edited by Kjmann on 27-Oct-2014 at 12:22 PM. Last edited by Kjmann on 27-Oct-2014 at 06:12 AM.
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 6:19:21
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| Last edited by Kotler on 27-Oct-2014 at 08:48 AM. Last edited by Kotler on 27-Oct-2014 at 08:47 AM. Last edited by Kotler on 27-Oct-2014 at 08:46 AM.
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 7:03:54
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And yet you love to namecall. Amigaworld.net had it been under threat of needing to close could have asked for bids.
This isn't some kind of thunderbirds esque rescue, no scantily clad maidens were hauled dripping out of a well. A commercial company bought the dns names and another site lost it's independence. |
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 7:08:22
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Cant fault that, youve been a gentleman ( and reviewing my own conduct on aw at times during the past) a bigger man than myself. _________________ Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 7:13:29
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itix wrote: I told in private message to moderator KJMann that I dont want to buy from AmigaKit anymore and do not recommend that web store to anyone else. This is what I got as response:
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You have been banned for the following reason: Threated to post bad things about the forum owners
Date the ban will be lifted: Never |
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I think you and your mates should have been banned from all forums long ago and left to rot in the self congratulatory pit of moobunny and #morphos. But this was wrong and a sign of things to come here. But I won't buy from amigakit either |
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Re: Do not buy from AmigaKit Posted on 27-Oct-2014 7:14:49
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| @Bondy no scantily clad maidens were hauled dripping out of a well
Ohhhh can it be a vat of honey?, I like honey. _________________ Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.
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