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Poll : Would you buy an updated Amiga Guru book?
Yes, a hard bound or paperback book in English
Yes, a "Print-on-Demand" service book in English
Yes, an English PDF release that I could print myself
Yes, I would buy both an electronic and paper version in English
Yes, one of the above choices, but a different language (specify)
No, an updated Amiga Guru book would not be of any use to me
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amigadave 
Would you buy an updated Amiga Guru book?
Posted on 21-Nov-2014 14:28:41
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I am running this poll here to gauge how many members here would be interested in buying an updated "Amiga Guru" book by Ralph Babel. The online petition from a few years ago, to find out how many people would support the writing of such a book has disappeared, as the petition site is now closed down.

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Re: Would you buy an updated Amiga Guru book?
Posted on 21-Nov-2014 15:34:11
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@amigadave

Not sure, what is it about, what chapters does it include, etc..?

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@amigadave

If you mean the same book that was about to be released a few years back, but due to the leaked torrent story, everything was canceled, then yes, I will buy it.

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Ami603 
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@Phantom

+1

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Xenic 
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Posted on 21-Nov-2014 17:24:57
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@marko
It's the most complete documentation and explanation of how the Amiga disk operating system works. It's essential documentation for Amiga programmers. My original copy is falling apart so I'd like a new copy; especially if it's updated to cover OS4, MOS etc. Due to pirating of the last attempt to republish it, it's doubtful we will see new publication.


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@Xenic

Oh, that one! If it's updated, I'll buy it.

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TrevorDick 
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Posted on 21-Nov-2014 21:38:00
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Being old schools, I voted yes for a hard backed book in English.

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tonyw 
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Posted on 21-Nov-2014 22:04:40
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@amigadave

What is in the book that is not in the wiki already for free?

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billt 
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Posted on 21-Nov-2014 22:23:00
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What is in the book that is not in the wiki already for free?


That's just it now, isn't it? WE DON'T KNOW!

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CodeSmith 
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Posted on 21-Nov-2014 23:14:01
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If it's as thorough as the old one, but updated for 4.1 Final and the price is about $50, I probably buy it.

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Vanhapolle 
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If is updated at least for AOS4.1 and i have money and is buyable form realbook and with paypal then fine.ps. i prefer AOS4.1 than MOS3.7 becouse one important program i think works (i dont tested but what i heared) works better here...

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@TrevorDick

Quote:
Being old schools, I voted yes for a hard backed book in English.


Also it looks much cooler on your bookshelf.

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NomadOfNorad 
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Posted on 4-Dec-2014 7:27:23
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What sort of price would a dead-tree edition of the book likely be?

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Barana 
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Posted on 4-Dec-2014 9:29:20
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I didnt know what the guru book was, but now I would like one.:)

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Posted on 4-Dec-2014 13:49:15
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After all the fuss made by the author because of the torrent and his childish behaviour i have chosen pancakes.

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salass00 
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Posted on 4-Dec-2014 15:03:37
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TBH given that there is already a more or less comprehensive documentation of all the important DOS packets and the new vector port interface in the latest SDK I don't see much need for the Amiga Guru book any more as it will likely contain mostly out of date information.

Having said that, I'd still probably still buy it though if it was available and not too expensive...

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walter 
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Posted on 4-Dec-2014 18:55:03
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I'm sitting here beside my copy of the book, in English, published in 1993, priced
DM 79. It MASSIVELY covers the nitty-gritty of AmigaDOS (up to 2.something),
DOS functions, handlers, packets, CLI, etc. It has very considerable info on
programming (Aztec and SAS/C (not sure where Amiga GCC was in 1993), how
compilers and assemblers interface with the system, program startup stuff),
system internals (system bootup arcana etc.).

Next to nothing on Intuition and user interface, but you can find plenty on those
elsewhere.

Mr. Babel bills it as a reference manual, but you will find very few reference
manuals as well, interestingly and wittily written as this. The chapter epigraphs
are funny and well-chosen, and the footnotes can be outrageous. It contains a
vast amount of dry technical information, but the way it is handled makes it in
my mind some kind of weird philosophical treatise---like if Marcus Aurelius had
been coding C instead of fighting the Germans The organization, the type,
the clean design; it's just a gorgeous thing from the guru meditation on
the cover to page 736 "This page left intentionally blank---well almost."

Sorry for gushing, but IMHO this is one of the great pieces of Amiga information,
literature and history, updated or not. Buy it if you can.

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Posted on 4-Dec-2014 21:51:17
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Okay, well, I've now voted. :)


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