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ROMwack 
X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 24-Jan-2015 8:40:54
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HI all

The clock on my X1000 remembers the time from when I last pressed Save the the Time prefs, but after turning off and coming back to the machine later, it starts counting the time from when I saved it - in other words the clock doesn't keep ticking when the machine is off.

I have to fetch it from an internet clock at boot time.

Can anyone suggest why the clock doesn't tick when the machine is off? On-board battery maybe?

Thanks!

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Anonymous 
Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 24-Jan-2015 9:21:54
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@ROMwack

Probably the battery...it's not hard to change it on the X1000.

Funny so many people have problems with drained batteries...i never had, not even with the XE (and that one was called a battery eater)

 
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Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 24-Jan-2015 10:05:15
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@Raziel

Yeah, I never had problems with batteries either. Not on Amiga500/1200, not on A1-XE (changed it once in 9 years), and not in the X1000. But then I always use the machines. They never stayed unplugged, and were used pretty much everyday, usually on 24/7.

Might be different when the machine is unplugged long times (no 5VSB from the PSU) and only powered up occasionally...

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ROMwack 
Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 24-Jan-2015 10:38:33
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@Deniil715 @Raziel

Could well be then - I use it in spurts, where I'll use it daily for a few months, then there will be a couple of months when it doesn't go on so often. I'll try replacing the battery.

Cheers!

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nikosidis 
Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 24-Jan-2015 10:56:11
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The CPU is to slow :P

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Hypex 
Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 24-Jan-2015 13:30:52
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@Deniil715

My A1 is turned off during that day and most of the night for that matter and the battery keeps well for a few years or more before playing. However, been a while since the X1K booted up so will need to check that.

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ROMwack 
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Posted on 24-Jan-2015 14:41:07
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Mind you, if it is remembering the time from 0020 on the 18 january each time I boot, then it would seem there is some power there to remember the time.

Still, devices short on power do weird things, so I will give it a try anyway! It might help with the other problem it has, which is that it won't reset or turn off by the buttons at the top of the case any more.

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Severin 
Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 24-Jan-2015 16:38:41
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@ROMwack

It's nothing to do with your battery. just add the following lines to your s:network-startup:-

date server pool.ntp.org port 123 >nil:
setclock save

Edit: more info...

NG Amigas have two clocks, a hardware clock and a software clock, during boot the hardware clock is used to set the software clock. modern clock chips don't seem to be as accurate as the ones in classics. having setclock save in network-startup will save the current software clock to the hardware clock which is what all modern OS's do. Hance the modern cheaper inaccurate clock chips.

Last edited by Severin on 24-Jan-2015 at 04:46 PM.

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Tuxedo 
Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 24-Jan-2015 16:48:19
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@Severin

interesting...

I added that also on my Peg2 ntework-startup since I got a weird problem opening Time program that dont found battclock.resource...

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ROMwack 
Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 24-Jan-2015 20:17:02
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@Severin

Thanks, I'm already doing that, but the hardware RTC should still work For whatever reason the network doesn't always pick up the time which is where it gets a bit annoying.

When I run "setclock save" it doesn't increment the clock whislt the machine is switched off, which is the weird part.

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JurassicC 
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Posted on 24-Jan-2015 21:44:11
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@Tuxedo

Quote:

Tuxedo wrote:
@Severin

interesting...

I added that also on my Peg2 ntework-startup since I got a weird problem opening Time program that dont found battclock.resource...


Replace Kickstart/battclock.resource from update 6 on the PEG2

Last edited by JurassicC on 24-Jan-2015 at 09:44 PM.

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Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 24-Jan-2015 22:14:34
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@JurassicC

Thats what I want to do....
Do do yet simply because sunno if it will create some weird problem to kickstart...you tryed?

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Anonymous 
Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 26-Jan-2015 9:08:19
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@Severin

Quote:

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@ROMwack

It's nothing to do with your battery. just add the following lines to your s:network-startup:-

date server pool.ntp.org port 123 >nil:
setclock save

Edit: more info...

NG Amigas have two clocks, a hardware clock and a software clock, during boot the hardware clock is used to set the software clock. modern clock chips don't seem to be as accurate as the ones in classics. having setclock save in network-startup will save the current software clock to the hardware clock which is what all modern OS's do. Hance the modern cheaper inaccurate clock chips.

I love those little details

Keep them coming, sev

 
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tonyw 
Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 26-Jan-2015 12:34:57
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@Severin

Nick, that can't be right. His clock is not running slow or fast, it isn't running at all when the power is off. Hence it must be a hardware problem and the battery is the most likely, followed by corrosion on the contacts.

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Severin 
Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 26-Jan-2015 17:39:35
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@tonyw

Yeas I agree but I stick the time / setclock in every thread I can, it's amazing how many people don't have it.

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JurassicC 
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Posted on 26-Jan-2015 19:10:42
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@Tuxedo

Yes. Its perfectly fine to replace it with the old version.

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Re: X1000 hardware clock doesn't keep the current time
Posted on 26-Jan-2015 21:52:11
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@Severin

Maybe I should mention yFacts?

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