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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 17-Mar-2015 15:09:37
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@OlafS25

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if you are reluctant to use a modern desktop (if I remember right you were not wanting to use Magellan) then it is your problem, not the problem of AROS


Desktop enviroment was not something I had in mind. Eg. theming (GUI etc.) options are limited, same for other prefs editors (some didn´t change in years).

Well to be fair, visible relics of past are also part of AmigaOS 4 (MEmacs, Picasso96Mode or IconEdit - still 68k application!).


Edit: I think we should start another thread about configuration options of various OSs. Or simply rename this one. Few OT posts about Hyperion bancruptcy can stay there.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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visible relics of past are also part of AmigaOS 4


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Picasso96Mode


I don't think you need that application for years.
At least it that been possible to edit tooltypes of the monitor icon, to add screen modes for many years.

And later versions of video drivers support DDC.
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/DDC.html

so you do not need to configure anything.
of course your using AmigaOS4.1 under WinUAE, so you might not have that.

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IconEdit


You can get the 32bit icon editor from AmigaBounty.net.

http://www.amigabounty.net/?function=viewfiles&projectid=55

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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Ben insulted and delegitimated our beloved system calling it "potentially illegal"


Well I am not really into the "gossip", anyway I guess you should discuss the thing in a proper thread then.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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I don't think need that application for years.


It is useable in WinUAE as I can set screenmodes not possible by tooltypes (320x200, 1680x1050 with 4 MB GFX RAM).

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You can get the 32bit icon editor from AmigaBounty.net.


I know. Icon Edit was just an example of long neglected part of the OS.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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Great to see AROS get so much attention, it seems now on level with what MorphOS used to get. Guess that means they're doing something right? :)

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@kolla

Well what can I say, they are good at provoking.
if bad publicity is good for AROS the go ahead.

EDIT:
Should not lower myself to your level (and get provoked.)

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@pavlor

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Desktop enviroment was not something I had in mind. Eg. theming (GUI etc.) options are limited, same for other prefs editors (some didn´t change in years).


actually when i tried to give a hand to djnick or whomever i looked at themeing of os4 and aros in comparison. it is very alike, for most part compatible. os4 contains some elements more but i dont remember what they were for, nothing particular afair, perhaps the start bar or what it is called. but window decoration is absolutely interchangeable. the problem with aros that has put me off from releasing skins, particularly an iff low color one for use on amiga hardware is problems in themeing menus, that make all effort vain, because i couldnt turn off transparency and adjust the borders. one small quirk, admittedly, that causes that there are almost no complete alternative themes for aros, at least for what i know.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@NutsAboutAmiga

Whatever you tried to communicate with that, I don't get it.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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EDIT

I do not need to provoke, should not provoke, and I should not generalize.

But what I wanted to say, throwing mud on Ben like saimon69, is doing earlier in this thread is not a good way to market AROS, I also like point a topic of this thread, it seems to me like your dancing on a grave.

I find it provoking.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@NutsAboutAmiga

so where is that os4 grave for us to dance on? i dont see any?

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@wawa

It's the foreplay.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=39913&forum=14&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0#751488

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@NutsAboutAmiga

now I am really getting angry

Good luck with your (humourless) cult

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 17-Mar-2015 16:42:22
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1. Well the point is now AROS supports (saimon69) have spent 52 pages; taking about how useless Hyperion, how you hope it go under, but you guess cannot even look yourself in the mirror and realize that AROS is as dead end.

2. It does not really matter if x64, x86, ARM, PowerPC. It is not the problem. AROS cannot compete with Windows, MacOSX or Linux, it want become the next Gaming OS, it will not become the next Network security OS, it will not become the next Desktop OS, not any of that.


1. There is, indeed, a little difference. Once nobody will spend a single cent on AmigaOS development, its sources will be simply forgotten (or leaked, more unwillingly open-sourced by a donor), AROS may be constandtlu furtherly developed thanks to its open source nature.

2. Nor AmigaOS will. Another difference here is that we're perfectly aware of this fact since... uhm... year 2002? We're keeping the platform alive as it is, because our primary goal is reiplementing the original API of AmigaOS no matter of its shortcomings. Trying to fix them is part of the fun.

The fun. That's the point.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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http://oldschoolgameblog.com/2015/03/16/the-hyperion-bankruptcy-decision-at-the-end-of-the-month/

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@A1200

that thread has atopic of it's own, releveant facts are now offtopic in this thread it seems.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@NutsAboutAmiga

You are becoming an embarrssment! Reported you for trolling....

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@NutsAboutAmiga

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Here is the AROS crowd trying to get publicity.

You said a few pages back that they have few developers and no users, so they couldn't really be a crowd, could they?

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@broadblues

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that thread has atopic of it's own, releveant facts are now offtopic in this thread it seems.


I never said that, if it's my posting you refer to.

I only compiled what I could from this thread into the other.

This thread [Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?] is surely entitled to on-topic posts if they are made.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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never said that, if it's my posting you refer to.


Certainly not.

It was more a comment on the posting behaviour of the last few pages.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@kolla

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kolla wrote:
Great to see AROS get so much attention, it seems now on level with what MorphOS used to get. Guess that means they're doing something right? :)



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