@Minuous

I've downloaded a few on a virtualbox VM and what they have done is "wrapped" those games into a modified WinUAE executable. So no need to run WinUAE or needing any kickstart roms or OS.

No malware so far.

figured I'd check it out for every body :)

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@Minuous

I've downloaded a few on a virtualbox VM and what they have done is "wrapped" those games into a modified WinUAE executable. So no need to run WinUAE or needing any kickstart roms or OS.

No malware so far.

figured I'd check it out for every body :)

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@Minuous

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>original copyright holders might have ceased to exist (bankrupt company) In which case, there is of course no legal issue, as there would be no entity with standing to file any court action.

But you cant be sure if they had a clause which have reverted copyrights back to those people who made the game, or to those who originally had the copyright. Which means that although the most known copyright holder doesnt exist anymore and hence wont be taking legal actions, there might now be some unknown to public copyright holder, which is why bankrupt cases are very hard ones to trace, since there might be no way to check if someone still has a copyright for it or not, unless the current copyright owner themselves take and effort to make it be known that they have those copyrights.

Also, it is possible that before they bankrupted, they sold all copyrights to someone else, as well as someone might have bought copyrights to those games after the bankruptcy procedure had started, when the lawyer tried to get money out of anything that company still had, and selling copyrights could have been one of them.

@m0lebrain

Thanks for the info. However there's no feasible way to know exactly what modifications they have made to WinUAE. I assume they don't provide any source code (which is in itself a breach of the WinUAE licence), so the only way to be sure would be an exhaustive disassembly of the whole thing.

Also of course it is an inefficient use of storage and bandwidth, for both the site and its users, to have to redownload WinUAE for each game.

everything legal about amiga since its gone..

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Also of course it is an inefficient use of storage and bandwidth, for both the site and its users, to have to redownload WinUAE for each game.

You don't get it. Target group for these games is different. They don't wanna install WinUAE, kickstart images, games, mess with settings they don't understand. They want just click and play.

@m0lebrain

hi! i have download 10 games from theme and 2 where infected whit a Trojan so you better have a good antivirus program i have bit defender for windows bye .

@amisteph

These are false positives. There are no trojans, malwares or any sort of virus on their releases.

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more than likely flagged because they are unsigned .exes.

I agree with all points here: Bad use of WinUAE, possibilities of virus, target audience is good...just want a quick fix.


However, neat concept, but kind of a shady place to play if you ask me :)

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@fishy_fis

That's borderline funny.

@g01df1sh

I knew you forgot something but I had to post anyway.

@m0lebrain

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No malware so far.

Are you sure? Your message was posted twice.

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@Hypex

I'm glad you caught my horrible approach to a joke ;)

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@amisteph

your STILL using windows after all these years????????its2015 dude. get an amiga/mac/riscos machine/android/blackberry/ios machine.

some food for thought :) For the first time in, oh, a decade, I think, something from Microsoft shipped on time: Jennifer Katharine Gates, weighed 8 pounds 6 ounces when she was downloaded, er, born on Friday, April 26, at 6:11 pm.

And what do Baby Gates and Daddy's products have in common?

1. Neither can stand on its own two feet without A LOT of third party support.
2. Both barf all over themselves regularly.
3. Regardless of the problem, calling Microsoft Tech Support won't help.
4. As they mature, we pray that they will be better than that which preceeded them.
5. At first release they're relatively compact, but they seem to grow and grow and grow with each passing year.
6. Although announced with great fanfare, pretty much anyone can produce one.
7. They arrive in shaky condition with inadequate documentation.
8. No matter what, it takes several months between the announcement and the actual release.
9. Bill gets the credit but someone else did most of the work.
10. For at least the next year, they'll suck.

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@Barana

hi your funy i have abou 15 computer in my home ,windows , mac , amiga next gen sam 460 ,amiga 200 hd amiga 1200 , ipad and other lol bye !

@m0lebrain

Even so, nice one.

But then...

@Barana

LOL. Good one.

@broadblues

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but the frequent disseminated idea that it's okay to distribute copyright material free of charge just because it's old is obscene. Peoples livelyhoods depend on this stuff

Nobody is making a livelyhood off 20-30 year old Amiga games.

I'd imagine so many of these sites exist because the original authors either don't care or are actually pleased that someone is preserving work they did many decades ago.

If you cannot buy the game any more, I'd rather download it from an abandonware site than pay some ebay seller the outrageous prices that many try to charge for old games, often more than it originally sold for 25 years ago.

Without sites like this many people wouldn't have a chance to experience these old classics.

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Nice, again a Webpage who spread pirate copys from our Software :/

And then wonder when we dont releasy many new software...

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danwood wrote: @broadblues Quote: but the frequent disseminated idea that it's okay to distribute copyright material free of charge just because it's old is obscene. Peoples livelyhoods depend on this stuff Nobody is making a livelyhood off 20-30 year old Amiga games. I'd imagine so many of these sites exist because the original authors either don't care or are actually pleased that someone is preserving work they did many decades ago. If you cannot buy the game any more, I'd rather download it from an abandonware site than pay some ebay seller the outrageous prices that many try to charge for old games, often more than it originally sold for 25 years ago. Without sites like this many people wouldn't have a chance to experience these old classics.

The problem here is "abandonware" is a term regularly banded around but that has no basis on anything legal at all. The copyright for the game belongs to the company who originally sold them - or in the event of their folding, the new owners of their IP, or the original author of the IP.

While the original game may no longer be sold on that platform, the IP belongs to somebody and in many instances is "rebooted" for mobile devices or given a lick of paint and called an HD edition on modern consoles/computing platforms. As such, they really don't appreciate their IP being given away under any guise of abandonment.

A lot of people go to great lengths to secure rights for distribution of old games from the rights holders. The fact that they can distribute these titles in their original format for free does not negate any copyright or distribution right the original rights holder has, and indeed they can decide to rescind distribution rights at their pleasure.

Unless it can be proven that the site has the distribution rights to the titles they offer, the link will have to be removed from here as it would make us liable should it remain here.

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