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It seems there are a few CFE variables that are not documented in the guide supplied with the X1000, like a1x1kide_xfer, framebuffer.

Does anyone know how to switch off the boot logo that appears before the boot menu? Something make my machine boot very slow and I want to know what it is, but I can't see anything because of the logo.

I also can't boot from my second HD, it doesn't show up when I choose to list all available devices but I do have a boot partition on it. Maybe there is another undocumented variable to make it show up?

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@Deniil715

There is nothing "hidden". You can list them all using "nvgetvar". Admittedly, there are some whose usefulness I don't know (like "framebuffer"), but I always assumed that they were for Linux users.

I've never heard of "a1x1kide_xfer". I certainly don't have one. There is nothing unique about the disk drivers for the X-1000, and my corresponding vars are called "sb600ide_xfer" and "sb600sata_xfer". The SiI3114 driver still looks for "sii3114ide_xfer", etc.

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@Deniil715

Where do you have the second HD plugged into?

I believe(?) CFE only looks at 3 ports for HDs. Top 2 and the bottom left.

I can boot linux even off of a drive on a PCIe card that CFE does not show as being there.

CFE > 'show devices' only seems to look at the first three SATA connectors. 0.0, 0.1 and 1.0 .

I can only imagine the bottom right slot would be 1.1, but have no way to test that just now.

It could be CFE is slow because of the second drive. Does it go faster if you try to boot off your now second drive plugged into where the first drive is, and leave the first one unplugged?

(that even sounds somewhat confusing to me)

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Does anyone know how to switch off the boot logo that appears before the boot menu? Something make my machine boot very slow and I want to know what it is, but I can't see anything because of the logo.

You mean the OS4 logo?

remove Bootimage.kmod from the kickstart

Wont gain you anything but a black screen while booting though.

Set echo on at the start of the s:startup-sequence may help.

If you mean the X1000 logo, then I don't know if you can, but the way to see what's happening is to attach a serial cable.

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CFE boot logo, not OS4 boot logo, any options to make CFE faster?
Uboot is alot faster.

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I'm pretty sure the a-eon logo is part of the CFE firmware, it did change with the last firmware update.

Amigaboot.of makes port 0 & 2 HD bootable, not port 1 & 3 (board label). Think that holds true for the CD drive as well.

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@Deniil715

AFAICT the boot logo comes up after the hardware has been setup and the VGA firmware has executed its slow setup routine. It looks like you are able to press F and get to a CFE prompt.

So has this been a recent slowdown? Maybe try pressing F to get to CFE and run the STARTUP script. Is your X1000 setup to boot quietly? You can also make sure the amigaboot_quiet variable is NOT set to "Y" but that might be too late in the game.

Apart from that check your SATA ports. Mine has a common problem losing devices. A wiggle on the SATA cables tends to get it back. Eventually. Afyer a few power cycles.

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Uboot is alot faster.

Damn straight.

I find that apart from the VGA card slowing it down at first, my X1000 takes a futher 40 seconds reading USB and HD drives. My XE takes a few seconds to do this (maybe 5) and then starts booting. Given my XE has two USB chipsets and four drives I womder what the X1K is doing with one only USB chipset and three drives.

@Deniil715

The trend continues: The faster Amigas we get - the slower they boot

No wonder OS4 development is so slow when the poor developer have to wait over a minute to reboot their test machines, something that can probably happen up to a hundred times a day when testing kickstart modules and drivers. A win-PC boots faster than an AmigaNG now.

Mine seemed to get even slower after I changed from DVI to HDMI. First it takes a consideral amount of time before there is a picture, but then there is a long delay with the CFE logo on the screen before I get to the early boot menu. Then we have the slow kickstart loading at PIO-0 speed. Now, after a minute OS4 finally boots, and that is pretty quick.

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You mean it takes a 1 min to CFE boot menu, wow. It is not that slow here, but a lot slower than uboot.

Maybe it has something do with what SATA connector that is used, but you cant really know what's going on, when you can't see what its doing.

I wonder if it's possible to see anything on the serial port using PuTTy.

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There is PLENTY on the serial port - hundreds of lines of it. A lot of it is executed at 500 MHz, of course, whilst in the CFE. Only the last bit - where amigaboot.of takes over - is executed at 1800 MHz.

@Deniil:

You are right, the slow boot of the X-1000 is a real pain when developing for it. Only the Sam 460 is slower. Both are put to shame by the boot speed of my Sam 440 Flex (just over 60 sec).

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Maybe the debug text itself is slowing it down, maybe it's possible the change baud rate.

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I'm logging with 115200 baud rate, i doubt setting it higher will accomplish a speed boost.

In terms of boot time I can confirm that after installing OS4.1FE my boot time has increased by 6 seconds (1min 10 sec before update and 1m16 sec after update)

here's a quick vid booting up my X1000 with OS4.1 Update 6 which was made the last time a boot time topic came up

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@klx300r

Press button at 0:22, CFE boot menu 0:48, ~ 28 sec
Press enter in CFE boot menu 0:56, OS booted 1:33 ~ 37 sec.
Total boot 65 sec.

You can speed up kickstart kernel module loading, by comment out what you do not need in kickstrat layout, lots of drivers that you don't need is loaded.

Go to utilities, find mounter, and mount the hidden BOOT partition.

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yes indeed 65 seconds taking account the seconds I take in the video to choose selection at CFE menu so 1minute 5 seconds before OS4.1FE

personally I don't pay much attention to start up times as my X1000 is still 10 times faster than my Win7 Pro desktop with i7@3.4 Ghz

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X1000 boot time is really slow and an ssd (at least mine) doesnt help. My win8.1 boots preeeety fast :) I remember when it was the other way .

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Kicko wrote: X1000 boot time is really slow and an ssd (at least mine) doesnt help. My win8.1 boots preeeety fast :) I remember when it was the other way .

Not my Win7 Pro PC noted above! By the time it's 'usable' (not just boot time) it's much much slower than my X1k.

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@klx300r

My sys boots to WB in 58 sec, I have the following kickstart modules commented out in kicklayout. My sys auto boots to WB without any waiting for key presses.

;MODULE Kickstart/JXFileSystem
;MODULE Kickstart/sii3112ide.device.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/sii3114ide.device.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/sii3512ide.device.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/sii0680ide.device.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/lsi53c8xx.device.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/it8212ide.device.kmod
;MODULE Kickstart/3DLabsPermedia2.chip
;MODULE Kickstart/3dfxVoodoo.chip

Be very aware that you need a "safe" boot partition in case you screw something up. I do this by copying the default kicklayout lines & pasting it at the end with 1 space between them & changing the label to "safe boot". Also be aware that what I comment out may be different from your needs.

Don't be so quick to blame FE for everything, it is a big change from 4.1 ud6.

I did notice a small boot slowdown, I suspect the new Radeon driver is doing a lot more with our gfx card init settings now.

PPl should be aware that some gfx cards can be slow to init for some reason, the a-eon screen takes 17s to show with my card (r9 270/2.4 driver).

@all, don't be so quick to blame FE, it is a big change over 4.1 ud6 as far as gfx changes at the expense of boot time.

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sundown wrote: @klx300r ...Don't be so quick to blame FE for everything, it is a big change from 4.1 ud6. I did notice a small boot slowdown, I suspect the new Radeon driver is doing a lot more with our gfx card init settings now. PPl should be aware that some gfx cards can be slow to init for some reason, the a-eon screen takes 17s to show with my card (r9 270/2.4 driver). .

I'm not 'blaming' FE for anything actually just noting a slighlty longer boot time and if slightly longer boot times are required to bring us full 3d and dual core support in the future I'm OK with that

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