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terminills 
Re: Final Writer-Feedback required about future development
Posted on 29-May-2015 22:38:11
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@jaokim

Items 2-4 are set in stone for this release. Items 1 and 5 are not.

Item 2 is merely a bugfix at this point.


What I can tell you is in the last 4 days there have been about 130 commits done to Final Writer. We will not be letting feature creep become and issue though.

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Re: Final Writer-Feedback required about future development
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@terminills

Me have Final writer release 5 on the Amiga and it works just fine.

Me myself, I prefer Cygnus editor.

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Re: Final Writer-Feedback required about future development
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Me myself, I prefer Cygnus editor.


Good I'm waiting for the update :P

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@terminills

I can remember my old girl friend used FW to write some school assignments, but cygnus editor rules!

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I'm just kidding as long Amiga rules!

But Final Writer works great, good old.

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Hi, I wonder if you will support Classic 68k Amiga also in the new version? Nice with nextgen support, but A-EON and Perfect Paint supports both. So, maybe there is a chance for a 68k version of newest FinalWriter?

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@Hillbillylitre

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@AmiDelf2

terminills said that this first new build he is running is 68k.

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ROFL!

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@terminills

I would pay $35 USD for a native OS4 port, and much more than that if it works well and has updated features.

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I've stated in the past I was planning for Classic, AROS, MorphOS and Aos4.

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@terminills

I will gladly pay for a MorphOS version.

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Re: Final Writer-Feedback required about future development
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@BigD

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BigD wrote:
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RTF is dead. Even Word Online you are probably using doesn't support RTF.


RTF is fine for basic text, just because M$ threw it out with the bathwater doesn't mean it's lost all use

She didn't throw it. RTF was too limited and inefficient.
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Why a file format needs constant development is beyond me. If it ain't broke don't fix it!

Why do you need RTF? Please, stick with the plain text. ! It doesn't need constant development, and need no fixes.

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Since when has M$ dictated whether a technology or file format lives or dies? We are not ruled by that monolithic behemoth

ROFL. The RTF WAS developed by Microsoft, do you know it? So, please, don't be ruled by that monolithic behemoth, and stick with the plain text.


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Don't ask me as I have no intention of removing it if it already works. Actually the nice thing about dead standards is they stop becoming a moving target. :)

So, since the so called Office '97 (extended 'til 2007, if I remember correctly) format is "dead", do you plan to support it? Microsoft published (from very long time) the full specs.


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Actually latest Rich Text Format (RTF) specification version is 1.9.1 used in M$ Office 2007.


That sounds about right. M$ give us the last iteration of RTF (a useful feature) in Office 2007 as well as the first iteration of the bloated icon eyesore that is the 'Ribbon' (a pointless feature)!

I'll be forced to use the 'Ribbon' at work from tomorrow but since M$ Office's old menu structure was so ubiquitous and widely understood I really don't see the point of it to be honest. I'll probably keep it hidden most of time to hide those horrible icons and just use the small quick reference icons for most of the common tools I use. It will be a pain to have to unhide the 'Ribbon' just to select a font, font size and choose alignment options though. I guess I'll be using more keyboard shortcuts to try and avoid using the 'Ribbon' unless I have to.

Maybe you need to spend a bit more time looking at how the "Ribbon interface" works. I usually don't spend my time clicking on the Ribbon. Most of the time I just play with context-menu which automatically appears close to the mouse, or I make it appear with the usual right-click of the mouse. Of course, keyboard short-cuts are my preferred tool.

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M$ must think they know best just like Apple do. We are a slave to this monolithic companies with their habit of spoon feeding us work flows and innovations that no one asked for

How much hatred, boy...

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@terminills

Hehe oki :) Its just so loong thread.. I havent taken time to read everything. With Indivision AGA mk2 I am even getting 1280x720 on my LCD-TV with my Amiga 1200. Would be really nice to run FinalWriter there. I even managed to run Deluxe Paint in 1280x720.. but due to little chip mem I sometimes only get 2 colors to play with :) while other times I get 32 colors.

Happy to see FinalWriter for Amiga. I would pay at least $50 for sure!

Love your work!

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@cdimauro

Word processor's should all have efficient keyboard short-cuts, as every time you have to remove your fingers from the keyboard to move a mouse, is lost productivity. Spreadsheets and database programs also share that requirement.

It has been so long since I have used Final Writer, I can't remember how well it implements keyboard short-cuts, or how much dependence on mouse and menu selections is included.

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Re: Final Writer-Feedback required about future development
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@terminills

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w131/Kalamatee/fw2015-002_zpsodazyfia.jpg

:P

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Very cool!

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@terminills

Gratulation

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Re: Final Writer-Feedback required about future development
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@terminills


Final Writer showing life on AROS 64 Bit. :)

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w131/Kalamatee/FinalWriter2015-003_zpsbif3xr1k.jpg

Last edited by terminills on 30-Jun-2015 at 11:25 PM.

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@terminills

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Final Writer showing life on AROS 64 Bit. :)

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w131/Kalamatee/FinalWriter2015-003_zpsbif3xr1k.jpg


Will there also be a AROS32 version or just AROS64?

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