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UAE OSX PPC build with...err.. PPC support?
Posted on 1-Apr-2015 16:48:11
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I'll need to explain this, even Google gets confused and doesn't tell me what I want. So what I'm asking is, is there a Mac OSX PowePC (or universal) binary of UAE that has PPC emulation?

I don't need JIT though that would be nice if included. And don't need a transparent PPC emulation layer that drops back to native code which would be cool.

Has anyone compiled UAE+PPC for OSX-PPC and got it to work?

I've read FS-UAE now has PPC emulation support. Has anyone tried to compile this for OSX PPC like 10.5.8? And do you have a package link?

Even a Linux PPC build would be good as Linux has some more modern PPC software than OSX and it looks like it's easier to buuld on.

The X1000 has good Linux suppott but I didn't bother trying to Google for terms with X1000 PPC emulation.

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Posted on 1-Apr-2015 17:06:20
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@Hypex

Good question I would like to know too.

And how fast this software is would be a good case.

For a proper PPC emulation on x86 world I am reading that we beed at keast an i5 or i7, yes to have OS4 running accaotable.

What about PPC world?

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Re: UAE OSX PPC build with...err.. PPC support?
Posted on 1-Apr-2015 17:07:56
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@Hypex

Me Hypex :)


need to install the macports for some library that the qemu plugin need

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=1006853&postcount=190

this is the video it running :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2ExCTPzEOk&list=UUkb4bw4N19d-x_tn2FXLojQ

For use the ppc emulation "press fast esc" for configure the cyberstormppc bios
and set all the luns to 0 (off) .
this because there an endianess on the scsi emulation.
you need to use the ide emulation for use the disk and cdroms


This is my default.config:


amiga_model = A4000/OS4
hard_drive_0_controller = ide0
hard_drive_0 = test.hdf
hard_drive_1_controller = ide1
hard_drive_1 = HD4.hdf
uae_a2065 = slirp
automatic_input_grab = 0
floppy_drive_0_volume = 5
fullscreen = 0
slirp_implementations = qemu

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Re: UAE OSX PPC build with...err.. PPC support?
Posted on 2-Apr-2015 6:17:16
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@Morphix

I don't know about PPC world. Given the PPC processor would be emulating itself should make it faster but any non-JIT emulation is bound to be slow. Of course the obvious inefficiency of a processor emulating itself when it should be able to just drop into native code on a whim.

So this is what I am asking, if any build exist.

I can see room for future improvements. Apart from a PPC_JIT where it would essentially be taking an instruction code, decoding it and then re-coding it to be possibly the same code, which would incur redundant converting. It could be coded to walk through the code, pick off illegal codes, and re-code it quickly for the PPCCPU it is running on. Then run the code. Like an optimised JIT.

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Posted on 2-Apr-2015 6:27:33
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@tlosm

Awesome stuff, Thanks for your work.

I have MacPorts installed but it always complains my compiler is too old and I need to update my XCode. Then it fails after to install anything. You'd think these things would be built into XCode if it is meant to be easy to develop on.

Nice video. Like the classic house. Even on my PowerBook G4 which cannot even play low def youtube video fluently I can see the speed is an improvement over my A1200.

BTW do you have another link? It won't let me download without an account. And I don't want to create an account just for one file.

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Re: UAE OSX PPC build with...err.. PPC support?
Posted on 2-Apr-2015 10:04:42
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@tlosm

On the video description you state that on PPC linux the emulation is even faster. So is there a uae version with the PPC support, for PPC Linux as well? If yes, can you please provide a link?

I wonder how the emulator would perform on my Dual G5.

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Re: UAE OSX PPC build with...err.. PPC support?
Posted on 2-Apr-2015 10:09:28
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From where can I download MacPorts for 10.5.8 PPC?

is this site ok?

https://www.macports.org/

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Re: UAE OSX PPC build with...err.. PPC support?
Posted on 2-Apr-2015 11:34:29
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@Hypex

here directly

no need drop box registration.

@ morphix

yes it is the macports website.
pratically thanks of macports you will have 20..000 new porting for your g5

yes linux is really much more faster compared osx .

but there is not a deb installable i will share my moddesd isi file and you will need to compile it.

with my test only debian wheezy is working ... lubuntu and mate not because sdl2 not good supported on 14.x


the best for have fastest emulation will be ask frode to fix the endianess on the isi emulation... ide emulation make the fsuae become much more slow... it can perform much more better and faster...


but the best will be prey tony to enable the kvm emulation by a variable in quemu-uae.

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Re: UAE OSX PPC build with...err.. PPC support?
Posted on 3-Apr-2015 8:01:04
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@tlosm

just shared the complete pack of dev29

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6k29r9zt9b2s9gq/fs-uaeDev29.zip?dl=0

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Posted on 3-Apr-2015 8:24:49
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@tlosm

What does this pack include?

Is it ready to run on osx? I guess it needs compile in Linux as gou said... Right?

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Posted on 3-Apr-2015 8:48:53
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@Morphix

yes it run on Osx leopard PPC
Include the FSUae the Qemu-ppc plugin for cyberstorm and couple of configurations

just need to make an hardfile and isntall Os4 or Os3 from an iso
if you had been downloaded it ... download again because i just updated it few second ago because there was a stupid bug



big img

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11081227_10203861608042209_6607750263403035112_n.jpg?oh=7081fb58d5b3c9787d7d7e8cd9a97fd9&oe=55B61874&__gda__=1436865803_2e84a3b28a56afb8ec53b826bd41d526

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Posted on 3-Apr-2015 16:28:36
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@tlosm

Quote:
here directly


Yes I missed the link on bottom. Blue bit hard to see.

Okay so do I need to drag the plugins drawer to my Documents? That's what the folder looks like it was saying. A simple read-me will suffice. No need for those fancy icon links you see in OSX disk images.

I tried to set up HiToro with FSUAE but I can't see where to set the UAE app anymore.

Now this KVM emulation, is that just for Linux? I tried to find a VM for PPC but all I saw were forums about VirtualPC and saw MAc-on-Mac.

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Posted on 3-Apr-2015 19:54:32
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@Hypex

yes ... plugins goes in /documents/fsuae/
Hi toro you can use for make hardfile for os3.9 installation.
for fsuae is better you see the espilon blog for setup it.
but need to have ide hd and ide cdrom
for instruction you can check the fsueae website

Kvm is only on linuxppc and for now isnt enabled on Fsuae... if it was enabled you will have the fastest amiga in the world ... because kvm is only 15% slower than cpu host.

Last edited by tlosm on 03-Apr-2015 at 07:55 PM.

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@tlosm

I could test OS4.1 FE Classic with PowerPC KVM. What shall I do? Any installation instructions?

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Re: UAE OSX PPC build with...err.. PPC support?
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@xeno74

Installation instruction...
... need to make the hd image ad an iso of the cdrom of fe
i made on classic everything from fsuae on my macbook pro there was possible use the scsi and it means Os4 was booting from cd...
On Ide cant be possible boot directly is needed the adf of boot disk for os4.

Instruction was on epsilon blog

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Posted on 4-Apr-2015 9:58:20
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@tlosm

Any link to that epsilon blog?

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@Morphix

here is

http://amigax1000.blogspot.it/

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Posted on 4-Apr-2015 17:21:58
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@tlosm

Okay thanks will set it up. BTW why is Documents used? Seems a strange place for plugins if they weren't written in TextEdit. AFAIK the standard place is ~/Library/Plugins.

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@Hypex

run fsuae the first time it will make the folders in the /decuments/Fsuae

after copy there the plugin directory. and the kickstart in the kickstart dir and so and so

use my example configuration for your configs .
the cyberstorm roms and piv roms etc etc goes in kickstart dir
the default.config in configurations dir



when run with cyberstorm emulation ... remember to enter in the cyberstom bios... push esc when run fsuae and pull all the luns to 0 on the scsi config or the fsuae will not run

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Last edited by tlosm on 04-Apr-2015 at 05:29 PM.

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@tlosm

Uploaded again there was some x86 libs inside the app ... dho!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6k29r9zt9b2s9gq/fs-uaeDev29.zip?dl=0

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