@newlight

I doubt that there are many skilled developers left who could do it (if at all). Additionally you would need different sets of graphics and music if it shall run on both A500 and "NG" and make full use. You can propably count active developers on 2 or three hands and that all have more than enough own programmes/projects. Former Amiga game developers are today active on Smartphone or similar, working in leading positions in game companies or have even died. Next generation is unfortunately (or better hardly surprising) missing. To make something really good you would need a big team of very skilled developers, graphic artists, sound specialists and skilled people for creating the gameplay. Or you do "homebrew" software but that is hardly better than the original.

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Outrun - C64 vs. CPC vs. Atari ST vs. Amiga
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGtuyZwhX_4

The C64 version is a little bit more playable but all versions are crap he says in the end.


I can not agree more and fortunately nowadays you can emulate the Arcade version flawlessly on PC.

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@Hillbillylitre

You can emulate flawlessly on PC or on AMIGA too or are we Amigans or noT?

So let's defend and retreat on ours Amiga that is the best way to promote it,doing games,buying PPaint,Aladdin or Cinema 4D among other games.The Amiga deserves more than if it were a newcomer because is old great history and we have celebrating our 30th anniversary even if Hyperion is bankrupt,a theme or mistake if it was awful or bad for us,don't worry Microsoft or even Samsung will take the rights of Amiga.The patents,holding and all.And then let's talk about A500 Spy Hunter or Out Run new games versions.

We could be done for Amiga 500,Amiga 1200 or AONE.

Thanks for staying true to the Amiga

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@OlafS25

I am sure there are active developers around especially from the demo scene.
There are also some "sleeping".

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@Massi

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There are also some "sleeping".

how did you know

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@Massi

Amiga Spy Hunter and Out Run could be the best games in Amiga and general computing history.

Let's go for it!!!

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@NutsAboutAmiga

Good question

Programmers always wait for a good challenge ...

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@newlight

Post your request on www.pouet.net (demo scene related site) ... lots of coders there.

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newlight wrote: @Hillbillylitre You can emulate flawlessly on PC or on AMIGA too or are we Amigans or noT?

I don't think an Amiga can emulate the Arcade version of OutRun in MAME without frameskipping, the Amiga500 version is just like a slideshow. Not even AGA and a 68060 could have emulated it flawlessly I think. But if it was hard-coded for AGA and a faster 68k CPU than a 68020/14 MHz it could perhaps become just as good as the Arcade game.

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@OlafS25

AFAIR Hollywood works only on 16bit+ screens from some time...however since it needs quite much resources I exclude the possibility to use it to made some sort of a game on classic hw(excluded WInUAE naturally) with decent speed...and honestly I dont care about that...I'm not really interested in classic hw...

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@newlight

Outrun is one of the best racing game ever.

The Amiga version was shameful. No doubt, Amiga deserves a decent and dignity version.

If someone take the project with little of love for the goal, will be achieve a great results!.

I am not a coder or programmer, but all my support to this idea and project.

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@Massi

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Post your request on www.pouet.net (demo scene related site) ... lots of coders there.

Go ahead and post there, if you want your request to be made fun of a lot :)

@NutsAboutAmiga

I have a different idea. If what is wanted is more content for these games, why not try reverse-engineering the games and seeing if it's possible to reuse the engine and provide new datafiles? If the engines are 1: generic enough (as in, one common engine across all original levels) and 2: still runs on our machines, I don't really see the engine as the interesting thing to change. But oh man, give me 30 new levels for Lotus Turbo Challenge 2 and I'll be happy for a year.

Obviously this could need some licensing, but where there's a will, there's a way, right?

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@Drummerboy

All my support too Out Run and Spy Hunter are the best games ever.

I will support both and give ideas,testing etc for the programmers.

Nice love to see people that think like me.

Total Disaster

The Amiga 500 Out Run version.

But I like it a lot anyway.

The best behind the Sega's Arcade version

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@olegil

Reverse-engineering can be a way.
Also some games became "abandonware" over the years meaning that the source code got released.

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@newlight

Check this Lotus remake:
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=16427

@All

For those interested here are the tech specs of the original Out Run arcade:
http://segaretro.org/Sega_OutRun_hardware

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@Massi

OK personally would like too to recoved the Outrun port from the "disaster" that the Amiga version used to be; plus for an amigan pride would love to have the port running on OCS/ECS. There is a trend lately to redo game ports in other platform that originally were poor - like the recent R-type ports for ST and Amstrad - and would love to see something going on on the amiga side too: plus in partuicular on EAB i asked about whether the Megadrive (genesis for US) port of Outrun would be possible to port on Amiga; answer was no but gave a good thread on the ideas;

thread is here: [brainstorm] Problems in porting megadrive games to amiga hw - EAB

Anoither thread was about improving the sucky port of Black Tiger:
[request] Not exactly an ST port.... Black Tiger Redux? - EAB

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@saimon69

No surprise that Sega made a decent conversion for its MegaDrive, everything in house

I pretty much agree with what Galahad said (EAB).

I saw "Out Run" like engines even for the web, so I guess it is possible to grab one and adapt it to A500.
Say I can code in M68K Assembly and have a certain interest for this thread, but you know nowadays with a family (wife, daughter) is different ...

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@newlight

I don't now if someone mentioned this but there are several "remakes" of Outrun already for PC, consoles and even arcade machines. I assume that is not what you're thinking of though.