@Seiya

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Emulate 68k software with petunia/trance or emulate it with WinUAE at the end is the same things

Petunia emulates only CPU, WinUAE must emulate entire computer. Difference is visible...


Edit: OS4 can run some OS3 application without 68k emulation (WarpOS ).

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@Hillbillylitre

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Most of the Amiga software is designed for the available hardware resources on the Amiga so therefore is the software running fine and smoothly on the Amiga without any PPC.

You most have lot of time to render 3D graphics, or edit video clips, and other CPU demanding tasks.



How many days does it take to play a 1080p or a 720p videos on your classic Amiga?



Sure you don't use your Amiga for anything, there for you don't need CPU power

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@A1200
I would vote classic Amiga, because considering its age, that's still the "best". However, since MorphOS is what I consider the most advanced (and/or most polished, pick your choice of wording), and I use it the most, also to support my classic projects, I voted MorphOS. I also keep an eye on AROS but so far, it's not quite "there" for me.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

I use my Amigas for what they are good for, to the rest I use a modern up to date computer with a vast selection of software and has a reasonable price.

And by the way how is 1080p running on AOS4, can you use HW acceleration trough the GFX card like on modern OSes?

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@pavlor
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Edit: OS4 can run some OS3 application without 68k emulation (WarpOS ).

OS4 has no integrated support for WarpOS. There is a 3rd party WarpOS emulation package, but as far as I recall, that didn't work on all hardware. Feel free to correct me on this though, but as far as I know the only NG system which has out-of-box WarpOS compatibility on all supported hardware is MorphOS.

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@Hillbillylitre

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I use my Amigas for what they are good for.

What are they good for today, besides playing old games on?



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to the rest I use a modern up to date computer with a vast selection of software and has a reasonable price.

Man you have given up already, way accept total defeat.



Some people are willing to pay bit more for the things we love.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

Naa the real Amiga has a really interesting chipset, and as I said ProTracker and DPaint works fine although it is not my first choice on the Amiga.

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@Hillbillylitre

"ProTracker"

Yes we have that on AmigaOS4.x as well, old outdated chips not needed.
http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=audio/tracker/protracker23.lha

Have you tried HivelyTracker?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT1lPo3mp10

Old Amiga program DigiBooster has native version on AmigaOS4.x.
http://www.digibooster.de/en/index.php

Bars and Pipes
http://www.amigaos.net/software/123/bars-and-pipes

And support for OctaMed is coming.
http://www.a-eon.com/?news=17-02-2015

"Dpaint"

PPaint runs on AmigaOS4, it's almost the same thing.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

So. yes i have all Amiga trackers and they run fine on my old real Amigas and also on my not over expensive x84 AmigaTwo PC.

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@A1200

LOL - great trolling subject. Look at how many people you have reeled in!!

I had a good laugh at the poll but perhaps sadly and not so unsurprisingly the fish have taken the bait yet again.

Sad.


P.S. Where is the "Pancakes" option. Sheesh!!

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I use AmigaOS 4.1 the most, therefor I voted AOS4.1 as well.

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I see neither troll or goats?

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@Chain-Q

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OS4 has no integrated support for WarpOS.

WarpOS applications work out of the box in WinUAE/4.1FE.

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but as far as I recall, that didn't work on all hardware

True.

@NutsAboutAmiga

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PPaint runs on AmigaOS4, it's almost the same thing.

DPaint aslo runs on AGA screens (with glitches).

@A1200

Slight flaw in your poll. Classic isn't Amniga (like), it is Amiga!

@Hillbillylitre

OS3.9 was crap on my A1200. It was made to install using a PC VGA chipset. The installer shows a gradient in the background. I can see it drawing down the screen on my AGA machine. They didn't even use the copper. Pathetic! I almost gave up. Not to mention that terrible clapping sample. It sounded like a poorly sampled birthday card.

@Hypex


I have no idea what you're talking about, I've never heard any clapping sample on my old 3.9 CD ROM... LOL

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@Hillbillylitre

When you open up the installer, it opens on its own screen, possibly 256 colour, then draws a slow gradient in the background. Doesn't use the hardware at all.

And when you finish a picture is shown and a badly sampled applause comes from the speakers. If you have some on.

@Seiya

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Seiya wrote: OS4&MOS can run Classic Amiga software without Petunia/Trance? so Emulate 68k software with petunia/trance or emulate it with WinUAE at the end is the same things if WinUAE is not Amiga, neither is OS4 and MOS

No, it's not the same at all. Not at all.

Both OS4 and MorphOS have AmigaOS (3.x) compatible API and _only_ CPU is emulated. Programs don't run sandboxed and separated from the OS, programs use native OS functions and share the OS resources. They run very seamlessly with the native programs.

Old 68k programs will become faster and prettier because they are using newer components of the next gen OS. They share ports and everything with native programs. Next gen OSes are very amiga.

You just can't compare MorphOS/OS4 to totally emulated and stuck-to-past system running on UAE under some alien OS. You should stop spreading this kind of false assumptions over the net.

BTW. if you remove Trance, you still can run classic Amiga's PPC (PUP/WOS) software ;)

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