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cdimauro 
Re: MorphOS code
Posted on 22-May-2015 20:52:06
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@KimmoK

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KimmoK wrote:
AROS uses a little bit more from x86 linux, because it can.

How?
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-AROS has been catching up the AOS3.1 API and adding some modernish things at the same time. Because anybody/everybody can update it, it does not seem to have clear roadmap. It just goes forward?

Yes, but Paolo is doing a good job trying to "make a path" with its Icaros "distro". IMO.
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AROS runs on 68k, PPC, ARM, x86 and x64. Focus has been on x86 and recently heavily also on 68k and ARM, so it's not clear what is their main HW focus in future.

AROS developers support what they want/like.
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-Microsoft OS dominate (and are remotely usable systems) because it has monopoly and unlimited resources. They control 99,99% of the home computers of this planet. If they do poor OS version, it does not matter because they have monopoly. They afford to support so huge amount of HW because HW manufacturers must do most of the drivers and because they have unlimited resources.

I totally disagree.
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Microsoft, for example, denied Gateway from further developing Amiga computers. So, any/every of their partners get a threat of loosing the partnership if they do not obey 100%.

Any proof? I mean, not just words spoken by someone: facts.

@KimmoK

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@OlafS25

>>"AROS runs on 68k, PPC, ARM, x86 and x64. Focus has been on x86 and recently heavily also on 68k and ARM, so it's not clear what is their main HW focus in future."

>Is that now a advantage or disadvantage?

To me it seems like disadvantage now. I rather see state of the art AmigaLikeNGOS on x64 before yet another version of the old on ARM. IMO, supporting a lot of ISAs make things more difficult. The less variants are supported the system can become more solid (like original amiga or current AppleComputer). Linux supports a lot of ISAs and perhaps that's one of the reasons it's a pile of p** nowdays.

(yesterday my wife stick Nikon high end camera to our LinuxMint64 and the I have to come to reboot it., again. Damnd linux was so good and stable before y2008 or so.)


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It also could be that running AROS on a interesting ISA/device can be the motivation for some key developer. If it's so, then I accept the waste of resources via multiple ISAs.

Consider that A LOT of bugs were fixed when AROS was ported for 68Ks. It allowed also to selectively change some modules from an original 3.0 or 3.1 Amiga o.s., to better check the compatibility of AROS version. That was an invaluable move.

The x64 port was/is beneficial too, because it allows to test the software with a BIG change: double sized pointers.

Other ports, like the PowerPC one, are IMO a waste of time/resource.

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g01df1sh 
Re: MorphOS code
Posted on 22-May-2015 21:07:27
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@cdimauro

Microsoft may have the monopoly at the moment but the way they are going I dont think it will be as strong in the home market. Windows 10 last version then they will start going down the subscription road . I will def not be going down the same road with them. Linux and steam will start to gain market share.

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cdimauro 
Re: MorphOS code
Posted on 22-May-2015 21:45:19
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@g01df1sh: we'll see. Every year I read the same thing: "this is the year of Linux".

In the meanwhile Microsoft increased is capitalization, even after Windows 8 and Windows Phone...

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g01df1sh 
Re: MorphOS code
Posted on 22-May-2015 22:04:03
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@cdimauro

Well commodore was big it only takes bad management to make a company fall. And i feel this is the start of Microsofts hold on te home market.

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cdimauro 
Re: MorphOS code
Posted on 23-May-2015 7:31:42
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@g01df1sh: I don't understand why you think this. Microsoft had bad times with the old management (CEO) due to bad choices (new UI forced on Window 8.x; too late in the mobile market), but with the new one she reverted the bad trend. In fact, and as I already reported, she grew and is growing.

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TRIPOS 
Re: MorphOS code
Posted on 23-May-2015 19:46:31
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@g01df1sh

In addition to what has already been said, MS obviously senses a new breath of air through IOT, which will also impact some dream-targets for "Amiga-ish" operating systems, as proclaimed by some members of this board.

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