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Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 27-Jul-2015 18:41:27
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(At least is QorIQ T2080 with 4d dual threaded cores 1.8 GHz with 128bit Altivec unit PER CORE) Last edited by Raffaele on 27-Jul-2015 at 06:43 PM.
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 27-Jul-2015 20:45:03
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| @Raffaele: do you see any SATA, USB, and PCI-Express connection? I don't. So, how do you pretend that it can be used for acting as a computer? |
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 27-Jul-2015 20:57:56
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Specifications from the product page... USB, SATA, PCI-Express and RS-232 are all exposed.
Processor ##Freescale T2080 processor ##Eight virtual (four dual-threaded) PowerPC e6500 cores at up to 1.8 GHz ##2 MB L2 cache ##512 kB platform cache ##IEEE 754 Floating-Point Unit (FPU) support ##128-bit AltiVec technology-based SIMD engine
Memory ##Up to 8 GB of up to DDR3-2133 ECC SDRAM ##Up to 512 MB of NOR flash (with redundancy) ##Up to 64 GB of NAND flash
VPX (VITA 46) P1 I/O ##x4 PCI Express, Serial RapidIO or 10 GbE XAUI Fat Pipe to P1.A ##x4 PCI Express or Serial RapidIO Fat Pipe to P1.B ##Two SerDes Gigabit Ethernet ports (or one 10/100/1000BASE-T port to P1 and one 10/100/1000BASE-T port to P2) ##X12d XMC P16 I/O
VPX (VITA 46) P2 I/O ##One 10/100/1000BASE-T port (when two SerDes Gigabit Ethernet P1 ports are not used) ##Two RS-232/422/485 serial ports ##Two USB 2.0 ports ##I²C port ##3.3 V GPIO signals ##P64s PMC P14 I/O (optional) ##Two SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports
PrPMC/XMC Site ##32-bit, 66 MHz PCI bus (PMC interface) ##x4 PCIe port (XMC interface) ##P64s P14 I/O support (optional) ##X12d P16 I/O support
Front Panel I/O ##Front panel RJ-45 Ethernet, micro-DB-9 RS-232 serial ports, and USB available via optional plugover module
Software Support ##Linux BSP ##Wind River VxWorks BSP ##Green Hills INTEGRITY BSP ##QNX Neutrino BSP (contact factory) ##LynuxWorks LynxOS BSP (contact factory)
Physical Characteristics ##3U VPX-REDI conduction- or air-cooled form factor ##Dimensions: 100 mm x 160 mm ##0.8 in. pitch without solder-side cover ##0.85 and 1.0 in. pitch with solder-side cover
Environmental Requirements ##Supported ruggedization levels (see the X-ES Ruggedization Chart): 1, 3, 5 ##Conformal coating available as an ordering option
Power Requirements ##Power will vary based on configuration and usage. Please consult factory.
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 27-Jul-2015 21:03:39
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| @gregthecanuck: I've already read it.
I repeat again: do you see any of USB, SATA, PCI-Express connectors? How do you attach your peripherals to such board? |
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 27-Jul-2015 21:38:11
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You obviously are talking about something that you do not understand. Is a carrier board; all these expansions are added with backplate I/O interface cards. this has VITA, PCM and XMC expansion conectors for these expansions cards. But one thing is clear, is not suitable for desktop usage; not at least in a elegant way Last edited by Fransexy on 27-Jul-2015 at 09:39 PM.
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 27-Jul-2015 21:56:17
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| it is a cpu module for a Freescale server the 2 black (with orange plugs) are for connect the module on the motherboard the architecture of this modules are really similar to the G5 Xserve Apple machine or G5 Quad Desktops (Cdimauro dont recognize them because never see a powerpc machine in real life) Amen .
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 27-Jul-2015 22:09:37
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Ah, your original message said "connection". So that is how I responded.
Is this board practical for OS4? I guess it depends on how easy it is to break out the VMX connectors onto a host board. You could treat it like an A4K/A3K CPU slot model... probably going to be pricey though...
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 28-Jul-2015 3:55:26
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(...Cdimauro dont recognize them because never see a powerpc machine in real life) Amen .
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 28-Jul-2015 5:32:59
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You obviously are talking about something that you do not understand. Is a carrier board; all these expansions are added with backplate I/O interface cards. |
Really? I never imagined it. Now I saw the light... Quote:
this has VITA, PCM and XMC expansion conectors for these expansions cards. But one thing is clear, is not suitable for desktop usage; not at least in a elegant way |
That's what I've asked:
"how do you pretend that it can be used for acting as a computer"
but I understand that reading simple sentences is an hard work for some people... |
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 28-Jul-2015 5:36:22
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tlosm wrote: it is a cpu module for a Freescale server the 2 black (with orange plugs) are for connect the module on the motherboard the architecture of this modules are really similar to the G5 Xserve Apple machine or G5 Quad Desktops |
So, can you show me how do you build a computer with such card? See above. Quote:
(Cdimauro dont recognize them because never see a powerpc machine in real life) Amen .
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And here is the fanboy which has to fight the heretical to defend his faith. As usual...
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(...Cdimauro dont recognize them because never see a powerpc machine in real life) Amen .
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Oops. Here's another one. |
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 28-Jul-2015 5:41:03
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Ah, your original message said "connection". So that is how I responded. |
Yes, but I saw that connection is too generic and create ambiguities. So I've written connectors then.
But the purpose was clear from the beginning: how to use such board to create a computer where people can connect peripherals (video card, hard drive, keyboard, mouse, etc.). Quote:
Is this board practical for OS4? I guess it depends on how easy it is to break out the VMX connectors onto a host board. You could treat it like an A4K/A3K CPU slot model... probably going to be pricey though...
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Let's wait for Raffaele to bring some prices for the board and the additional cards. |
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 28-Jul-2015 10:03:27
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"how do you pretend that it can be used for acting as a computer"
but I understand that reading simple sentences is an hard work for some people...
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Seeing as belittleing peoples reading comprehension seems to be on topic lets try yours....
Where anywhere in this thread but particularly in the OP has anyone claimed this can be used as a computer, let alone an AmigaOS4 one? The phrase "(Useless ?)" was even added to the tiitle, and before you graced the thread with your wisdom.
You claim one or two are fanboys in the thread yet your viscious antiPPC attitude is so strong you are the exact same thing, but in a negativeway, give it a rest, it's boring and tedious.
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 28-Jul-2015 12:40:28
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 28-Jul-2015 16:31:46
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What, boring and tedious? |
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 28-Jul-2015 18:16:08
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"how do you pretend that it can be used for acting as a computer"
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Seeing as belittleing peoples reading comprehension seems to be on topic lets try yours....
Where anywhere in this thread but particularly in the OP has anyone claimed this can be used as a computer, let alone an AmigaOS4 one? The phrase "(Useless ?)" was even added to the tiitle, and before you graced the thread with your wisdom. |
So, what do you think that it's the reason for posting this new, if not for any hope to have some cheap computer built with it, for running OS4 (or MorphOS)?
Haven't you ever seen such kind of threads in this forum? They are pretty frequent. Quote:
You claim one or two are fanboys in the thread yet your viscious antiPPC attitude is so strong you are the exact same thing, but in a negativeway, give it a rest, it's boring and tedious.
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AntiPPC? You should know that we are talking about hardware. It doesn't make sense to be "against" some piece of silicon. It's something which I consider childish: people should have been grown enough to understand that the "gool old" days of the Amiga vs Rest-of-the-worlds are already ended.
Regarding processors, I just gave my honest opinion, like any other people in this forum. Is it legitimate, or it's something which can be done only by PowerPC fanatics?
And, BTW, if you think that I'm wrong you're always free to correct me, right? |
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 28-Jul-2015 20:05:56
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It doesn't make sense to be "against" some piece of silicon. |
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I fear many members of this forum see you as embodiment of above sentences. |
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 28-Jul-2015 20:15:22
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| @pavlor: who cares. Facts count: not just words. |
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 28-Jul-2015 21:13:28
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 29-Jul-2015 5:47:45
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| @kolla: also emulation can have its advantages. Last edited by cdimauro on 29-Jul-2015 at 06:11 AM.
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Re: Yet Another Nice Tiny (Useless?) QorIQ CPU Motherboard Posted on 3-Aug-2015 8:42:02
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T2080 has hypervisor support, which means you can run a virtualization system behind the OSes. Even the P3041 could have done this, if it had been brought out in an X3500. P5020 obviously support it as well.
Where did you read that OS4 devs are opposed to it? It's the perfect use of the extra cores of the P50x0 until OS4 (if ever) uses them. _________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean. |
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