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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 23-Aug-2015 5:55:26
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g01df1sh wrote: @Zylesea
Because that is cheating emulation is OK but the real challenge is native OS no emulation or no host OS. FPGA is ok |
So why using emulators like EUAE and Petunia/Trance on OS4/MorphOS? Use the real hardware for running 68K apps...
I cannot agree with you. What counts is the result, whatever solution you use for getting it. |
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 23-Aug-2015 13:56:49
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All of them are Intel based? |
I just found out about these things last week when I happened to Google "DIY laptop" out of interest. I've also discovered other things of interest on the net accidently that have existed for years. But the problem with these, that you point out, is that they are not really a DIY built laptop. Thay all have mainboards which to me goes against the point. Of course there isn't exactly a mainboard laptop standard. At least not yet I'm aware of. All we need is a barebones case. Do any companies make a shell that could be customised? With just the case, screen, KB, pad and PSU? Then we could do something! |
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 23-Aug-2015 13:58:23
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The Sam440ep would be my starting point too and I have a spare waiting for a laptop housing |
Well put. Totally agree. |
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 23-Aug-2015 14:02:05
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But it was fantastic to see wifi working out the box well done to who ever did that driver. |
I tested 3.9. It could see the network and IIRC I ented the password but it didn't connect. Didn't see any errors. MOS is not very forthcoming with errors or information that way. So I then just connected an ehternet-to-wifi bridge and that worked.
AFAIK the point of MOS isn't to run games in UAE. That's what a PC is for. |
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 23-Aug-2015 14:25:01
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So we see, the idea is to get an Amiga laptop not an amigaesque type laptop as in MorphOS as we have that and not AROS we also have that.
So again the question is can and Amiga laptop be done?
Again I also state I have a Sam440ep board waiting for the case which would best suit._________________ 1 AmigaOne G4XE (OS4 Pre-Release Update4) Minimig Sam440ep + OS4.1FE Sam460cr + OS4.1FE |
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 24-Aug-2015 8:26:19
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Of course it can be done. You might need to unsolder the ATX power connector and any stacked IO connectors (sound/USB most likely, don't have time to do fact checking right now). They can be put on cables instead to save height.
Also, you'll need to find a laptop which can house the MB + whichever adapters you'll need (battery charging, picoPSU, LCD controller etc).
And last but not least, you'll probably need a little cooling, so a custom heat pipe plus a fan/cooler combo is needed.
We did this thought exercise a while back, here's one of my posts about it: http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38301&forum=33#719986
Edit: I still think I could to it in the e6500 shell, I've just so far completely failed to make the motherboard stop working. The keyboard is lacking a bunch of keys, battery gave out long time ago, case is slowly coming apart. Motherboard is solid as a brick. No wonder I can find a lot of motherboard spares on ebay but no case spares It's the best laid out laptop case I've ever seen as well. It just makes so much sense how it's been made. Last edited by olegil on 24-Aug-2015 at 08:29 AM.
_________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean. |
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 25-Aug-2015 16:15:08
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No willing to solder/unsolder chips but would be willing to let someone else with the knowledge do it as long as it could be fit. _________________ 1 AmigaOne G4XE (OS4 Pre-Release Update4) Minimig Sam440ep + OS4.1FE Sam460cr + OS4.1FE |
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 26-Aug-2015 5:42:05
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the 440 has the ram pointing into space, so ddr and atx are d to be angled. seems the io shield is easier (edit: had i paid attention I would have noticed it could have ram soldered on. does yours?) 460ex is opposite. here it's io, as it uses laptop ram.
i see 3 large lots of lenovo r/t61 on ebay right now. if that would work it would be awesome. oh, btw a replacement _61 mb using minimig schematics would be very easy. a t10_2 design slightly harder. but not very hard. Last edited by olegil on 26-Aug-2015 at 09:10 AM.
_________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean. |
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 11-Oct-2016 21:13:02
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When I started thinking of putting my Sam440ep in a laptop again just a couple of days ago I also thought what about Minimig.
Not sure that has all the functionality I need though. _________________ 1 AmigaOne G4XE (OS4 Pre-Release Update4) Minimig Sam440ep + OS4.1FE Sam460cr + OS4.1FE |
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 12-Oct-2016 7:04:12
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| I think the best candidate for an Amiga laptop, will be an old P3 notebook (I have) that is a bit fatter than current ones, with a disk drive. I think that removing all the interiors there would be enough space to fit the standalone vampire when available plus the necessary connection and auxiliary hardware.
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 12-Oct-2016 11:39:38
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Do you have any pictures of this old P3 notebook or a link to where I can see the size and possible the specs?
Some of the old Thinkpads seem quite deep Last edited by 1Mouse on 12-Oct-2016 at 11:51 AM.
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 12-Oct-2016 18:14:44
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Sorry my fault. It is a laptop not a notebook. I think that at that time notebook were not yet existing. However i can't show it or advise the model because i do not have it here |
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 12-Oct-2016 18:22:44
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Is it similar in size and shape to early IBM ThinkPads, they seem quite deep _________________ 1 AmigaOne G4XE (OS4 Pre-Release Update4) Minimig Sam440ep + OS4.1FE Sam460cr + OS4.1FE |
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 13-Oct-2016 8:00:27
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hello if it was me i wood use amiga cd32 as it wood work better as a laptop _________________ maybe i am dyslexia
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 13-Oct-2016 8:02:16
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I'm looking for a laptop that can run OS4.1, is that possible on a CD32?
Need a PPC accelerator board in there and that would take up valuable space in the case _________________ 1 AmigaOne G4XE (OS4 Pre-Release Update4) Minimig Sam440ep + OS4.1FE Sam460cr + OS4.1FE |
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 14-Oct-2016 10:33:31
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well i think os4.1 work on 1200 o i think it should work on cd32 _________________ maybe i am dyslexia
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Re: Amiga laptop Posted on 14-Oct-2016 12:56:40
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Would rather have a PPC laptop running OS4.1 natively.
Not enough room for a 1200 + PPC card in a laptop _________________ 1 AmigaOne G4XE (OS4 Pre-Release Update4) Minimig Sam440ep + OS4.1FE Sam460cr + OS4.1FE |
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