@Birbo

hmm then something like software works easily together and is easily expandible and combineable. Arexx-Ports come to my mind, that was a idea ahead of its time when it was introduced.

@Birbo

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@Birbo

You're asking several people, so do not expect to get ONE common answer. That's why we have OS4, MOS, AROS, Classic-only etc. groups.

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@Birbo

World domination


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@billt

The fact that there are multiple factions in this community confirms a lack of vision.

@Birbo

I thought there was a vision. It just isn't ready yet. They need more writers.

Your alien vision is interesting. One might say your Amiga vision is out of this world. But I wonder, maybe we have set the bar too high, so why don't we search for extraterrestrial stupidity instead? I mean, if they haven't come to us yet, perhaps they are under developed. To the point they aren't even born yet. Which makes our race look stupid and impatient.

I think a vision is very difficult when most Amiga and Amiga like systems try to keep up to the rest of the world. I think survival is the mission, and we are currently succeeding with that

A future vision, when PPC is dropped or AROS mature, would be to create the best hack friendly desktop system. One that is more open to the user than Windows/MacOS but without the complicated tinkering demanded by Linux/BSD. A system that sits comfy right in the middle.

It's not as sexy as world domination, but it can be done. We don't need a huge user base, we just need a system that makes new blood interested, and not just consists of old Amiga farts

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@Birbo

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An Amiga Computer is the platform of the most passionate users and developers aiming to survive the spirit and fun experience with such a system of the early 90s.

I think the late 80s were better for the Amiga than the early 90s. In 1988 is was reasonable to think that the Amiga might become the dominant desktop platform; five years later no reasonable person was thinking that.

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@Yasu

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One that is more open to the user than Windows/MacOS but without the complicated tinkering demanded by Linux/BSD.

This is probably more a matter of perception than reality. I've had to do some "complicated tinkering" on Windows systems in the past, and at some point you just give up and admit that you're screwed. Microsoft make easy things trivial, and difficult things impossible.

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One thing that I like about Aros x86 (well same would probably go for
all NGs) is that it is a system that can be booted with minimal hardware
requirements for today's standards.Boots in lees than 10 sec on 512 Mb
P4 2.4 Ghz and uses some 60-80 Mb to boot and I rarely run out of memory
or use swap file.

Only strong point I see compared to Linux/Windows.

@blizz1220

I have a PC matching that description. I should try the latest. But it is a Dell and the IDE hardware is a bit funny. Even a Linux repair CD gets stuck trying to boot. That could be why I don't remember running AROS on it.

I don't own a computer, I have an Amiga.

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I suppose for the last 20 year the vision/goal has been just keeping the Amiga alive after commodore, the main aim for OS4 as I understand it was to get the AmigaOS ported to modern hardware and were still chasing that goal, first it was just to get it running natively on PPC, then get modern gfx support, now its goal is support dual core cpu and support gfx cards even more , and judging by the size of our community and developers I think just chasing tech that we would like AmigaOS to be on is all we can do, because there always going to something around the corner like should AmigaOS have a VR desktop and support VR, should we support touch screen and make a optimised AmigaOS GUI system for touch, should we be making web powered AmigaOS that you could access from any browser. I would say yes to all of them but its risky to put what little resource we have into maybe one of them futures until its a certainty of how things are going to be from now on. But dual core support is something that is pretty much certainty that any modern OS needs to do now.

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Microsoft did have an original vision statement which has now been updated since Satya Nadella. It was very simple: "A computer on every desk and in every home”. And for the ‘80s this was a very ambitious vision, one which many would not have thought all that realistic back then. Whilst visions are meant to be lofty it’s the mission statement that helps connect what a company does with what they’d like to achieve.

Here’s how I would write the vision and mission statements for the various Amiga companies if I were working within them.

Morphos Vision
To carry the brightly lit torch that burned with the innovation of the post-Commodore years into a new millennium of computing

Morphos Mission
We look at every new development in the field of computing and we ask “how can we make it more Amiga-like?"

Hyperion Entertainment Vision
To make sure that the world never forgets that Amiga OS is a constant inspiration to creative computing individuals, since 1985, today, and into the new millennium

Hyperion Entertainment Mission
To each day in everything we work on, and what we deliver to our consumers represents choice; The choice to consume content, the choice to create content, and the choice to create tools for content creation and consumption without ever needing to change to another operating platform.

Acube Systems Vision
To reclaim Europe’s place in the computing world for innovation and quality manufacturing. 100% of embedded systems operated in Europe made by Acube.

Acube Systems Mission
Continually reducing the supply chain and increase the value chain for embedded systems operating in Europe

A-Eon Vision
Inspired by the original Amiga computer, to be the first name for powerful alternative computing systems, to encourage alternative thinking and solutions

A-Eon Mission
Building modern era PowerPC based computers for AmigaOS 4 and other Amiga-like alternative operating systems and Linux PPC.

Amiga Inc. Vision
To be held as a benchmark for what’s possible in computing and to be the criteria everyday users will use to judge computing alternatives

Amiga Inc. Mission
Continuous innovation of the operating system and application development tools to enable ever faster and flexible development of apps and games for the Amiga OS ecosystem.

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@thread

For a lark, here’s how I see the vision and mission statements of the various Amiga companies if I were to reverse engineer them from the companies’ actual behaviour (information theory).

Morphos Vision
To continue the existence of the MorphOS operating system as a choice for Amiga users on PowerPC hardware

Morphos Mission
Release an OS update once per year and with each update expand the number of models of Apple PowerPC hardware that is supported.

Hyperion Entertainment Vision
To make sure that the world never forgets that Hyperion won the mediation with Amiga Inc and thus holds the worldwide distribution rights for AmigaOS 4.

Hyperion Entertainment Mission
To each day make sure that no one is stealing any part of the code. To milk for as long as possible the outcome of the mediation and the paid work that had gone into the development of AmigaOS 4 for PowerPC hardware.

Acube System Vision
To have a successful embedded systems engineering capability operating in Italy

Acube Systems Mission
100% of Acube embedded systems made by Europeans

A-Eon Vision
Inspired by personal goals to have the most powerful Amiga desktop no matter the cost.

A-Eon Mission
Inspire other Amiga users to buy the most powerful Amiga desktop no matter the cost. And by purchasing valuable Amiga software commodities, hope to inspire more software development for AmigaOS 4 and PowerPC compatible Amiga-like operating systems.

Amiga Inc. Vision
(sound of crickets)

Amiga Inc. Mission
To every now and then grant a license for the use of the Amiga logo and/or Trademarks.

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MacOSX is a BSD, and much more open than, say, OS4 and MorphOS.

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And AROS has no mission neither vision...

@agami

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the post-Commode years

typo or no? (evil grin)

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