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ppcamiga1 
20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 7-Nov-2015 16:44:04
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Today we celebrate anniversary.

20 years ago Amiga Technlogies announced that Amiga goes POWER PC.

http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminews/1995/at951111.html

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 7-Nov-2015 16:55:42
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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 7-Nov-2015 17:03:21
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2015 is great year:
30 years since introduction of Amiga
20 years since Amiga goes PowerPC announcement
15 years since AmigaOne announcement

It took 9 years until "Our pre-emptive multitasking Operating System AmigaOS was ported to the Power PC platform".

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iggy 
Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 7-Nov-2015 20:54:57
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It took 9 years until "Our pre-emptive multitasking Operating System AmigaOS was ported to the Power PC platform".


Come on, it was available before that.
Hyperion seemed to drag out the 'final' release of it until they could make a good claim in court of ownership.

And while some of you were waiting, we were using MorphOS (which isn't as many of you have pointed out is not AmigaOS, and now its developers probably wouldn't want it to be associated that way).

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 7-Nov-2015 22:00:01
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This includes WarpUP that became part of AmigaOS3.5/3.9

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 7-Nov-2015 22:24:15
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Come on, it was available before that.


Not for users.

2004: 4.0 Developer pre-release (first public release of OS4)
2006: 4.0 Final Update (you probably had in mind)

So 9 years since 1995.

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And while some of you were waiting, we were using MorphOS


In some of mind moves of Bill McEwen, MorphOS was possible basis for OS4. It is worst irony that Blue-Red war could have been averted back then.

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itix 
Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 7-Nov-2015 22:29:31
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20 years ago ESCOM bought Amiga and was the first post-Commodore company to own Amiga.

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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In some of mind moves of Bill McEwen, MorphOS was possible basis for OS4. It is worst irony that Blue-Red war could have been averted back then.


But then OS 4 as you know today would not exist. It would feel and look like MorphOS.

Last edited by itix on 07-Nov-2015 at 10:36 PM.

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pavlor 
Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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But then OS 4 as you know today would not exist.


Right.

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It would feel and look like MorphOS.


Maybe, maybe not. Combined team of Hyperion, MorphOS and other AmigaOS developers would probably create something different... better than both Red and Blue OSs today, I think. Wasted opportunity.

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itix 
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There would not be combined team of Hyperion and MorphOS. You could have WarpOS from Hyperion and another red/blue war.

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This includes WarpUP that became part of AmigaOS3.5/3.9


That makes the timeline quoted more realistic.

BTW - How did WarpOS come to exist?
Didn't that involve some contention over proprietary rights (yet again).

And no one has (as yet) answered me about why OS4 has so many elements from OS 3.5 and 3.9 if its supposed to be a licensed development of OS3.1.

Did Hyperion have to secure licenses for those components?

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iggy 
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Posted on 7-Nov-2015 23:18:57
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You could have WarpOS from Hyperion and another red/blue war.


I am not sure about that assertion.
I see no documentation that code from Haage & Partner was legally transferred or licensed by Hyperion.

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pavlor 
Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
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I see no documentation that code from Haage & Partner was legally transferred or licensed by Hyperion.


No code from Haage & Partner is in OS4 - as far as we know. After strife between Amiga an Haage & Partner, Hyperion got 3.5/3.9 parts only from 3rd party developers.

@itix

Why should be MorphOS based OS4 developed only by MorphOS Team? It would have been common project for all willing developers. No factions, no Blue-Red divide. Sustainable user base for possible further grow.

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Rob 
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Posted on 7-Nov-2015 23:53:38
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BTW - How did WarpOS come to exist?


H&P/Sam Jordan thought they could make a better solution than PowerUP.

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And no one has (as yet) answered me about why OS4 has so many elements from OS 3.5 and 3.9 if its supposed to be a licensed development of OS3.1.

Did Hyperion have to secure licenses for those components?


The improvements in 3.5 and 3.9 are largely 3rd party contributions. Hyperion contracted most of the same developers as H&P.

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iggy 
Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 8-Nov-2015 4:40:17
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Why should be MorphOS based OS4 developed only by MorphOS Team? It would have been common project for all willing developers. No factions, no Blue-Red divide. Sustainable user base for possible further grow.


Well, that would have been nice instead of a splintered community.
Everyone agreeing to a common move forward.
Things are more than a little fubared, instead.

@Rob

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H&P/Sam Jordan thought they could make a better solution than PowerUP.


I did not mean WarpUp, I meant WarpOS (its successor).

How have the rights to that been handled (since it still seems to be under development)?

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Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 8-Nov-2015 6:29:48
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Quote:

ppcamiga1 wrote:
Today we celebrate anniversary.

20 years ago Amiga Technlogies announced that Amiga goes POWER PC.

http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminews/1995/at951111.html

Where's the new chipset?

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raddude9 
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Posted on 8-Nov-2015 8:14:42
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hmmm. With hindsight maybe they should have gone with ARM instead?

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Trixie 
Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 8-Nov-2015 8:20:31
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Well, that would have been nice instead of a splintered community.

Yes but it didn't happen, such are the facts of life, so why drag out that would-have-been scenario again and again? It's really tiresome and boring.

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ppcamiga1 
Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 8-Nov-2015 11:34:45
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@pavlor

2015 is great year:
30 years since introduction of Amiga
20 years since Amiga goes PowerPC announcement
15 years since AmigaOne announcement

And of course:

20 years of cybergraphics

15 years of mediator

15 years of JIT in uae


Last edited by ppcamiga1 on 08-Nov-2015 at 11:35 AM.

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itix 
Re: 20 years Amiga powerpc
Posted on 8-Nov-2015 11:48:22
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Why should be MorphOS based OS4 developed only by MorphOS Team?


Because Hyperion would not want to participate. Before OS4 Hyperion was backing up WarpUp that was another candinate as amigaos successor.

Last edited by itix on 08-Nov-2015 at 11:51 AM.

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