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Unbelievable Tony Willen (and partners) expanded
WinUAE massively!!! Thanks alot!!!

New features:

64-bit compatible 680x0 JIT
64-bit compatible PPC emulation
PCI bridgeboards
Commodore PC/AT bridgeboards
A2410 RTG Zorro II board
DCTV video port graphics adapter (Partially)
Genlock "emulation", including transparency and ECS genlock features
Directory harddrive and hardfile KS 1.2 and older full autoboot support
Initially emulated hardware:
Accelerator boards:
DKB Wildfire
HD controllers:
3-State Apollo 500/2000
A2090 previously missing ST-506 support
Elaborate Bytes A.L.F.
Kupke Golem Fast SCSI/IDE
Mainhattan Data Paradox SCSI
Multi Evolution 500/2000
OMTI-Adapter
Spirit Technology HDA-506
Tecmar T-Card/T-Disk
Vortex System 2000
Xebec 9720H
Commodore x86 bridgeboards:
A1060 (A1000 Sidecar)
A2088
A2088T
A2286
A2386SX
x86 bridgeboard expansion devices:
AT IDE HD controller (A2286 and A2386SX)
XTIDE Universal BIOS compatible IDE HD controller
ISA VGA display card (Cirrus Logic GD542x based)

PCI bridgeboards:
G-REX
Mediator 1200/4000
Prometheus
PCI bridgeboard compatible PCI cards:
FM801 sound card
ES1370 (SB128) sound card
RTL8029 network card

Other changes:
CD and sound card emulation audio output quality improved
68020/030 prefetch emulation improved
High DPI display support improved
AGA subpixel scrolling emulated
Support shortcut paths (.lnk) in command line
More undocumented chipset features supported
Right control = right Windows key option
Memory accesses only -cycle-exact mode
UAE devices (uaeserial etc) are compatible with KS 1.2 and older
Improved compatibility with very old A500 config files

Fixed bugs:

WinPCap network mode didn't detect any devices
68030 data cache emulation fixes
Custom to/from RTG mode switch didn't check for filter changes
JIT on/off on the fly change (outside of GUI) was unreliable
Keyboard layout changed (B/C only) during device re-enumeration
D3D9 non-shader mode forgot scanline texture when switching modes
Audio wave recording created huge broken wave files
It was not possible to select HDF PCMCIA SRAM and IDE options
Flash ROM and RTC file dialogs didn't allow creation of new files

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@zErec

After using several WinUAE 3.2 beta´s for months, I must say Toni did great work! OS4 now works with PCI sound (drivers on OS4 depot) and network cards, not even speaking about numerous other features (full 64 bit support, Bridgeboards, ...).

@zErec

Is there a possibility to have more RAM on OS4? For example as Mediator PCI RAM Expansion?

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@Birbo

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Is there a possibility to have more RAM on OS4? For example as Mediator PCI RAM Expansion?

Ask Hyperion...


Required change in kernel is really simple.

@pavlor

I have noticed a big improvement on this latest release of WinUAE using X86 mode on my Microsoft Surface 3 under Amiga OS4.1 FE especially in terms of sound and speed, although for best results on this machine I still have to run it in 640x480 mode.

64 bit mode sadly causes the muffled/garbled sound when running OS4.1 FE on this machine.

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@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @Birbo Quote: Is there a possibility to have more RAM on OS4? For example as Mediator PCI RAM Expansion? Ask Hyperion... Required change in kernel is really simple.

But it seems that there's already a kernel patch for this...

Aside this, only the Voodoo3 emulation currently is missing to "close the circle" and let WinUAE become a serious contender for real OS4 hardware.

@cdimauro

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But it seems that there's already a kernel patch for this...

That would be probably some older pre-FE version. I don´t know, how compatible this could be with current FE enviroment.

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Aside this, only the Voodoo3 emulation currently is missing to "close the circle" and let WinUAE become a serious contender for real OS4 hardware.

No compositing, no 3D, slow network...

@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @cdimauro Quote: But it seems that there's already a kernel patch for this... That would be probably some older pre-FE version. I don´t know, how compatible this could be with current FE enviroment.

It should be fully compatible. That's a part of the o.s. initialization, and I'm pretty sure that the memory scanning & mapping routines aren't changed.
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Quote: Aside this, only the Voodoo3 emulation currently is missing to "close the circle" and let WinUAE become a serious contender for real OS4 hardware. No compositing, no 3D,

Even with a Voodoo3?
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slow network...

The last WinUAE introduced the support with some other network devices. Have you tried them?

@zErec

Well done!

@cdimauro

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It should be fully compatible.

That is question for betatesters and they are bound by NDA.

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Even with a Voodoo3?

Compositing is not supported by OS4 on Voodoo 3 cards (I think) AND WinUAE implementation will be pure software based (at least in first versions), so slooooooooooooow.

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The last WinUAE introduced the support with some other network devices. Have you tried them?

Did you read what devices are emulated? You can´t get much more from 10 Mbit/s ethernet card...

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@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @cdimauro Quote: It should be fully compatible. That is question for betatesters and they are bound by NDA.

No, I was talking about the code itself: something which betatesters have no access, normally.
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Quote: Even with a Voodoo3? Compositing is not supported by OS4 on Voodoo 3 cards (I think)

So it's not sure. To be verified.
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AND WinUAE implementation will be pure software based (at least in first versions), so slooooooooooooow.

Sure, but consider that you can use a much faster CPU, so even the full Voodoo3 emulation can be acceptable for an OS4 user.
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Quote: The last WinUAE introduced the support with some other network devices. Have you tried them? Did you read what devices are emulated? You can´t get much more from 10 Mbit/s ethernet card...

Yes, but such limit means nothing, unless if the code is using a more exact emulation. In short, such limit could easily not apply at all.

It's like the Z3 RAM emulated by (Win)UAE: it's not deadly slow like the original, because here you're not doing cycle-accurate emulation of the RAM.

So, an emulated network card can transfer much more data than the original.

@cdimauro

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So it's not sure. To be verified.

Now verified. Radeon only.

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Sure, but consider that you can use a much faster CPU, so even the full Voodoo3 emulation can be acceptable for an OS4 user.

Judging by speed of CLGD5446 emulation, I don´t think so...

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So, an emulated network card can transfer much more data than the original.

Card is emulated (and used by drivers) at original speed. I have cca 1 MB/s speed with both Z2 (A2065) and PCI network cards. Of course, it wouldn´t be problem to use similar solution as bsdsocket.library emulation in OS3 side with full network speed, but again changes in WinUAE and OS4 are needed (drivers).

@cdimauro

only a basic question... PCI support meaning direct access to the hardware or at least low level access to the host? The big disadvantage of UAE compared to Amithlon is missing low level access.

@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @cdimauro Quote: So it's not sure. To be verified. Now verified. Radeon only.

Amen... :-/
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Quote: Sure, but consider that you can use a much faster CPU, so even the full Voodoo3 emulation can be acceptable for an OS4 user. Judging by speed of CLGD5446 emulation, I don´t think so...

Well, that's a totally different SVGA, which also seems 2D-only.

A 3D card emulation can benefit a lot from SIMD units, removing also a lot of the overhead (you already have 3D primitives, so code can be much better optimized).
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Quote: So, an emulated network card can transfer much more data than the original. Card is emulated (and used by drivers) at original speed. I have cca 1 MB/s speed with both Z2 (A2065) and PCI network cards.

OK, but 1MB/s for surfing is very good.
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Of course, it wouldn´t be problem to use similar solution as bsdsocket.library emulation in OS3 side with full network speed, but again changes in WinUAE and OS4 are needed (drivers).

Another bounty...

@OlafS25

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The big disadvantage of UAE compared to Amithlon is missing low level access.

That is not problem of UAE device drivers - speed is close to native.


PCI support in WinUAE has no direct access to the hardware.

@OlafS25

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OlafS25 wrote: @cdimauro only a basic question... PCI support meaning direct access to the hardware or at least low level access to the host? The big disadvantage of UAE compared to Amithlon is missing low level access.

No low-level / direct hardware access is here.

WinUAE only emulates a PCI bridge, mapping some PCI cards which are supported. That's all.

@pavlor

If you've tried it you'd see the voodoo3 emulation thats being proposed isn't slow.
You can't really compare the cirrus logic card on an emulated zorro 2/3 bus to voodoo3 over PCI bus.

Emulated or not the hardware (both busses and chipsets) make a significant difference.

@thread

Given the emulation of PCI bus boards does this mean openpci is now supported?

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@zErec

I have a A2286 bridgeboard. I'd like to compare the emulation with the real thing. I imagine you have to have the Janus software, which I have. Also I'd like to check out the A2386. The PC 386 introduced memory management, which you need to do anything, especially running anything after Windows 3. Just wondering how you get PC disks in a format WinUAE can read.

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