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OlafS25 
News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Dec-2015 12:37:49
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it nears completion now

more infos here:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=1053722#post1053722

Not only support for A600 but also A500 and A1200 in preparation

And A1200 even with 1 GB RAM!

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wawa 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Dec-2015 13:27:38
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@OlafS25

the forum is back up as well:
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php

but lets not get carried away by announcements. im fond of steady progress instead and rather looking forward to 600 release above all else. its been quite a long time soon to be released, remember?

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Birbo 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Dec-2015 14:28:43
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@wawa

The new official Amiga-Slogan is:

Amiga. Two more weeks.


So, we should be happy to get announcements. Who cares about a finished product?

The Amiga Community is faster than the speed of light. That's why we only see the announcement, never a finished product...

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pavlor 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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@OlafS25

Nice!

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tangoone 
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Posted on 1-Dec-2015 18:21:57
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@OlafS25

this is the best x-mas gift this year, good news from the apollo team.

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OnlyMe 
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This is great news. I have been watching this one for a while and always wondered if it would make it to market. Looks like Gunnar has worked his magic on this and produced a fantastic product. Can't wait to get my hands on one.

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NovaCoder 
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This is looking more promising, with enough MIPS my old DOSBox port will become very useful to AGA users

DOSBox AGA v0.74.006 - YouTube

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wawa 
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@NovaCoder

still lurking? i thought, you ve left?

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NovaCoder 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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@wawa

Quote:

wawa wrote:
@NovaCoder

still lurking? i thought, you ve left?


Left coding, not the Amiga scene completely

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gregthecanuck 
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Posted on 2-Dec-2015 1:35:54
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@thread

It will be fun to watch how far the FPGA technology can go.

The fact that they now claim a 500Mhz-equivalent 68030 running with a fast memory subsystem should make for some interesting developments.

Good times for retro users!

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OlafS25 
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@gregthecanuck

we can call it "Classic NG"

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pavlor 
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@gregthecanuck

500 MHz 68030 = 100 MHz 68060

Still really good for classic users.

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gregthecanuck 
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@pavlor

I'm not sure on the 68060 equivalency. They haven't published too much on 68060 comparisons. The Sysinfo tool they are using isn't 060 aware.

The old forums (before the reset) did have some measurements but they are all gone, plus the core has evolved and will continue to evolve. The big deal with the core is reducing the number of clock cycles required to execute instructions - reducing most to one clock if I recall. Even cooler is the logic for fusing instructions. Lots of good ideas in there.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this core far exceeded 100MHz 060 performance at some point.

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pavlor 
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@gregthecanuck

They published enough benchmarks for my estimate. In one of them (resource demanding demo) 68060 80 MHz was even faster. Sure, core may improve in the future.

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olegil 
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@pavlor

On the other hand, they implement a full 68030 instruction set, so no trapped instructions like on the 040 and 060. It's hard to say, actually. It'll depend heavily on what instructions are thrown at it

I think it's better to refer it to 68030 equivalents, because that's what you can buy today in hardware anyway.

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Posted on 3-Dec-2015 16:43:37
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Vampire V3 FPGA(68k) + PPC

http://phytec.com/products/system-on-modules/phycore/mpc5200b-io/

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Posted on 3-Dec-2015 16:58:32
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Quote:

NovaCoder wrote:
@wawa

Quote:

wawa wrote:
@NovaCoder

still lurking? i thought, you ve left?


Left coding, not the Amiga scene completely


good to hear

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utri007 
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Posted on 3-Dec-2015 20:24:15
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@pavlor

500mhz 68030 would be equalent to 125mhz 68040

So comparing to 68060 it is not even 100mhz, it something like 62,5mhz

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Fransexy 
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Wake me up when they reach 500 mhz 060 performance

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pavlor 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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@utri007

Quote:
500mhz 68030 would be equalent to 125mhz 68040


Depends on benchmarks (diference will be muuuch higher when comparing FPU code). In my (rather conservative) estimate, 500 MHz 68030 = 150 MHz 68040.

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