@CarasGhant

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So MorphOS 3.10 is now officially released?

No, this is a weird situation.
The development team has stated that that won't be released until support is complete for all current systems.

But this might not be the complete reason, after all, you can't buy an X5000 yet.

I think this actually might be the only time we have seen a MorphOS release delayed thanks to Hyperion.

No OS4 port, no X5000 sales.

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@CarasGhant
My apologies to all for the childish nature of my unedited response..

As I will probably have my first copy of OS4 with the purchase of a P5020 or P5040 X5000, I promise not to denigrate the OS.
After all, the Radeon HD drivers are rather neat.

And it looks good, could use better Open GL support though.

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@CarasGhant

Pity moobunny isn't around anymore. With your educated postings you could have started quite a career over there...

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@iggy

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No OS4 port, no X5000 sales.

Perhaps more like...No OS4 port, no "Amigaone X5000" sales. It's about the name of the system with AmigaOS 4.x.

Please note also that Tabor is referred to by the name "Tabor" as a board.

But as a complete system...

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The full system is designated the AmigaOne A1222.

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Whether these boards can be sold as systems carrying the name "Amigaone" without including AmigaOS 4.x as a pre-requisite is doubtful. But I'd be happy to listen to legal/contractual opinions to the contrary.

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@number6

System labeling is not really an issue for me.
I would still find it interesting if it was just called an Aeon X5000.

@number6

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Whether these boards can be sold as systems carrying the name "Amigaone" without including AmigaOS 4.x as a pre-requisite is doubtful.

The AmigaOne moniker is exclusively licensed to Hyperion, "solely for the purpose of marketing, distributing and making available AmigaOS 4 and any hardware required or desired to operate with AmigaOS 4".

If Hyperion's stated intent that they might want to release OS4 for hardware X at one point is enough to fulfill the "hardware desired to operate with AmigaOS 4" clause is anyone's guess. But even if it is - it's still Hyperion's trademark, I doubt they'll be happy if Trevor starts selling "AmigaOne" machines running some AROS flavour or MorphOS...

Unless the A-EON/Hyperion agreement totally sucks (apologies for the insider joke), I doubt A-EON are free to go ahead and sell "AmigaOnes" without OS4.

@PR

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PR wrote: Come on children. Do creative. Or should we put these whiners in a boxing ring.

YES

That's by far and away the best suggestion I've heard here in a long time.

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@cgutjahr

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I doubt they'll be happy if Trevor starts selling "AmigaOne" machines running some AROS flavour or MorphOS

No, I agree that this could violate their agreement with Hyperion.
Like Acube, they may offer a rebate on the return of unneeded copies of OS4, but unlike Acube I don't really expect them to sell boards without an OS.
After all, they are the primary hardware source for AmigaOne systems.

@Zylesea

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@cgutjahr
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I doubt they'll be happy if Trevor starts selling "AmigaOne" machines running some AROS flavour or MorphOS....

And I doubt the MorphOS Team cares if they support the A-Eon AmigaONE X5000, or the A-Eon Cyrus Plus... The same with LinuxPPC folks, or AROS for that matter. Actually, MorphOS calls the board "CyrusPlus" anyway...

My point is: if Hyperion doesn't deliver in time (again), just start selling the board without the badge - it's worthless anyway, IMO, people bought the Sam460 too, before it became the A1 500, or the Pegasos II...

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@Chain-Q

The Peg2 is a weird case.
Its not an Amiga or an AmigaOne, but there is an OS4 port for it.
Doubly odd in that its a Genesi/bPlan motherboard.

But, I'd buy an X5000 motherboard labeled simply 'Cyrus Plus'.

So waiting for Hyperion is getting tiresome.

@PR

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PR wrote: Come on children. Do creative. Or should we put these whiners in a boxing ring.

Are personal attacks allowed in this forum? Please, give a clear answer here.

If there's a TOS, I'm asking to be applied, since the guy takes any chance to attack me. I don't think it's difficult to understand, right?

attack -> TOS applied

Very simple.

Way to be adults guys.

The simple fact is, that none of us knows whats going on behind the curtains and those who do are usually under NDA's

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@cdimauro

Yes, apparently such attacks are allowed: reports just tend to be ignored, and rules are applied inconsistently.

For such reasons, I generally no longer bother to visit or post here.

@iggy
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The Peg2 is a weird case. Its not an Amiga or an AmigaOne, but there is an OS4 port for it.

Well, it's not the only exception, it's much like the Sam440, isn't it? That wasn't an AmigaOne, when they released OS4 for it, and even the Sam460 was first just a motherboard, and it became the mainboard for the AmigaOne 500 full system later... And I somehow doubt the sales skyrocketed after it "became an AmigaOne", or people really cared, but of course I can only guess on that...

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it's worthless anyway, IMO, people bought the Sam460 too, before it became the A1 500, or the Pegasos II...

The Pegasos II already ran MorphOS. I really doubt that much people would have bought it if it didn't run MorphOS. The same goes for the Sam: did people buy a Sam460 before it was called Amiga and before it ran AmigaOS 4 ?

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@Leo

Good examples.

Remember original AmigaOne (well this one had "the holy name"...) or Efika? And, if I remember correctly, even SAM440 was sold with Linux (2007) before then illegal OS4 port (2008).

@pavlor

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And, if I remember correctly, even SAM440 was sold with Linux (2007) before then illegal OS4 port (2008).

September 17, 2008

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Prospective customers wishing to beta-test the near final OEM version of AmigaOS 4.1 for the SAM 440ep will be afforded the opportunity to do so and will subsequently receive the full version.

Perhaps more interesting, is Bill McEwen's statement a year earlier:

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